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The Vietnam War myth
05-06-2010, 03:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-06-2010, 03:20 AM by Bear.)
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RE: The Vietnam War myth
(05-04-2010, 06:24 PM)low_bidder Wrote: "defense of Greece was to counter Stalinism which is not Communism. Semantics for some, but if we're talking truth to history we should try to be clear with one another. "

In Your opinion. In my opinion, there is no major difference between them. If it walks like a duck, swims like a duke quacks like a duck.....
I call them 4th worlders just to prevent them from doing what you are trying to do, which is hide behind a label.
Truth is a slippery subject, which is why 4th worlders worship it. Conservatives understand that truth is facts with spin. Truth depends on perspective. Facts are facts. They remain unchanged no matter what the perspective POV) is.

Let me be real clear. Any difference between Statism, Maoism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, Stalinism, et. al. exist only in the minds of those that want there to be a difference. You are in the position of a man claiming a dog with 10,002 fleas is different then a dog with 9,990 fleas.
I say it's a dog and it has fleas. GET IT OUT OF THE HOUSE!

I am a US citizen, and we do not have a Democracy, it is truly a Republic of States. These are important details, it is not wise to generalize all political theories as "them" versus whatever ideology you subscribe to. I am trying to be objective but it is impossible when discussing with someone that cannot let go of subjective judgments. An important fact to remember is that whenever an "ism" reaches it's zenith of success including religious beliefs, or that vague point of realization we humans will evolve or topple that "ism". If one of those options is not sought out then that "ism" or way of doing things in the past will cause that nation/society to self destruct, implode and render those true believers/fundamentalists if you would, into the crapper of history. i.e. Greek religion became Greek Mythology and is now entertainment material...but this digresses from the issue...?
The war in Vietnam Myth to me is that it was a just and moral war. I never subscribed to that, even when I swore in to active duty during the war. My obligation as a citizen trumps my personal beliefs. Any US citizen out there of able mind and body not serving in the current war against muslim fundamentalism is without conscience or conviction for the safety and well being of family, friends and all Americans and western civilization. Forget all the bullshit and semantics about ideology and "isms" and the subversive chicken hawks on "fake news" and the fat profiteer "Limpbag"...fear has become a big pay day for the subversives. Talk is not cheap when war is on, they give hope and encouragement to our enemies who see us divided...and the WAR goes on...
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The Vietnam War myth - by Crossroads - 04-16-2010, 02:21 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by fastphil - 04-18-2010, 01:01 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 04-18-2010, 08:58 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 04-19-2010, 02:41 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by FM WarB - 04-20-2010, 05:21 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by low_bidder - 04-29-2010, 02:42 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by FM WarB - 05-01-2010, 02:28 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 04-20-2010, 01:04 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bert Blitzkrieg - 04-21-2010, 11:46 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 04-23-2010, 02:07 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 04-20-2010, 06:11 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by FM WarB - 04-20-2010, 08:05 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Herr Straße Laufer - 04-22-2010, 07:59 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 04-23-2010, 10:26 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 04-24-2010, 03:25 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by FM WarB - 04-24-2010, 04:03 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by wildb - 04-25-2010, 01:02 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 04-25-2010, 01:55 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by wildb - 04-25-2010, 11:52 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 04-28-2010, 02:07 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by FM WarB - 04-28-2010, 10:14 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Crossroads - 04-29-2010, 12:22 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Ricky B - 05-01-2010, 04:07 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by bwv - 05-02-2010, 06:46 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 05-02-2010, 09:45 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by low_bidder - 05-02-2010, 07:25 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 05-03-2010, 12:38 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by bwv - 05-03-2010, 04:59 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by low_bidder - 05-04-2010, 06:24 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Bear - 05-06-2010, 03:17 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 05-06-2010, 07:07 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Crossroads - 05-06-2010, 03:02 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by low_bidder - 05-07-2010, 01:53 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 05-07-2010, 07:53 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by Crossroads - 05-07-2010, 08:08 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by bwv - 05-07-2010, 10:11 AM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 05-07-2010, 06:13 PM
RE: The Vietnam War myth - by JasonC - 05-08-2010, 08:05 AM

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