Do we have too much control over fire in PzC, what’s your opinion?

[Ricky B]

Good points all. I can see both sets of rules being to an extent realistic, but for the east front, at least, tend toward thinking that the alt fire rules, or at least for arty, could be more realistic, IF the scenarios are setup to work well with that rule set. Being able to pinpoint specific units is an extreme, but the random spread of losses against a stack is a bit far the other way.

However, the density impact on losses under the alt artillery rule seems very correct when fighting on the east front, but to use it requires that the scenario be designed for it or it just won't work. I always raise this example - I played a Kharkov campaign where my opponent chose the alt fire rules and we quit within 15 turns or so as his Soviet losses were immense, fairly realistically, but he was unable to hurt my Axis forces, making it unwinnable for the Soviets as they could barely dent the German lines.

So a well designed scenario would work well with the alt fire rules, and I think it could be more realistic overall, but the scenario/firepower values must be designed for the rules too.

Rick