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Why West Lost Afghan War
07-18-2010, 11:46 AM,
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RE: Why West Lost Afghan War
This is just another stage in a war that has lasted ...what?...1500 years or so. Never been constant, and the level has varied. From long periods of mostly Western domination, to points of great crisis for that domination, such as Lepanto in 1571 and the Gates of Vienna in 1683. In those days, of course,and speaking very generally, the rulers of the West were not big into political correctness, cultural relativity, rules of engagement, shit like that. Nor did they have to worry about a treasonous media, nor indeed any middle class stuff. That started to appear properly about a hundred years later. The American and French Revolutions lead to the ever-quickening rise of the middle class and a society that provided, in most Western lands, a standard of living undreamed of in history. Societies based largely on Western curiousity genius and dynamism. Absolutely necessary to this was the supply of cheap energy.
How was islam affected by this? By the Revolutions,not at all. islam is less a religion than a political system, one that appears monolithic to our more eclectic ways. But with Western societies reliant on cheap energy, our profligate ways have made us reliant on sources under islams control, opening another phase in this long long war.
Add to this a moral ambiguity in our own societies, the presence of hordes of "useful idiots" and the mistaking of licence for freedom, I think we are in big trouble. Jason C said "Visit lower Manhattan if you are unclear on the point." Are there not plans to build a mosque there? If that is true, the situation of the West is terminal. Afghanistan is meaningless No civilisation, no matter how wealthy, how apparently strong, can survive a poweful external threat whilst being undermined from within by its own institutions.
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Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-03-2010, 03:47 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by JasonC - 07-15-2010, 03:00 PM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-16-2010, 06:15 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-16-2010, 07:44 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by JasonC - 07-16-2010, 10:09 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-16-2010, 10:54 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by JasonC - 07-16-2010, 01:22 PM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by K K Rossokolski - 07-18-2010, 11:46 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by JasonC - 07-19-2010, 06:07 PM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-18-2010, 12:54 PM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-19-2010, 12:50 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-19-2010, 09:13 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-20-2010, 06:43 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by bwv - 07-31-2010, 12:44 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by JasonC - 08-02-2010, 04:34 AM
RE: Why West Lost Afghan War - by FM WarB - 08-14-2010, 05:45 AM

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