(07-19-2010, 09:13 AM)bwv Wrote: Real conservative values, not the neoconservative messianic vision of American military power transforming the world (which has its roots in Leninist internationalism, as the founding neocons were Trotskyites), are in line with the views of the founding fathers in avoiding foreign alliances and entanglements and maintaining a small federal government. It is not possible to have limited government and civil liberties at home and empire abroad.
Do you wish to change the topic?
Neoconservatives? Who talked of neoconservatives?
True conservatives do not hold the visions of which you wrote.
As far as your empire comment, you'll have to ask the Brits how that worked out. They were the last of the "empires"?
And, I do hold true to the words of the founding fathers that we should avoid foreign entanglements.
Like was said to Jefferson, "if you fight the pirates, you will be fighting them for ever." That should have been said here, after 911, and the people should have been both informed and prepared.
There is no empire when you fight for your own survival?
And, before you get to it, I would take our troops out of Japan and Germany in a heart beat. I never liked being the worlds police nor do I like the thought that others rely on American military might so that they can spend their treasures to support their socialist ideals.
Bend away. :chin:
HSL