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Low Ammo OOB
10-13-2010, 10:41 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-13-2010, 11:55 PM by Cross.)
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RE: Low Ammo OOB
(10-13-2010, 12:59 PM)keepitloki Wrote: Then you raise the question of how fast ammo gets used up with semi-auto weapons like the Garand M1 and Gewehr 43 or fully auto like Stg 44, relative to bolt action rifles like the Kar 98 or Lee Enfield. And then SMGs?
Maybe adjusting the ammo loadout according to kill rate would also be appropriate (i.e. Bolt action - 1, Semi-auto - 2, SMG - 5 etc.).

I think you are exactly right, assault rifles, SMGs and semi-auto weapons were not more powerful than rifles, but are given a higher KILL rating because they send more ammo down range in the same period of time.

Rifles have a KILL (damage) rating of 1, and we give them 1 SP ammo unit for each real life round.

Therefore, a consistent and logical way to translate real life ammo into SP ammo units is to divide the real life ammo by the weapons SP ‘KILL’ (damage/burst) rating.

This approach would give the following SP ammo units to these weapons:

SMGs
MP40:.................. 38...... (ammo 192 / KILL 5 = 38)
M3:..................... 36...... (ammo 180 / KILL 5 = 36)
Sten UK:.............. 32...... (ammo 160 / KILL 5 = 32)
Thompson US:.......30...... (ammo 180 / KILL 6 = 30)
PPsH 41:.............. 28...... (ammo 142 / KILL 5 = 28)

SA Rifles
M1 Garand:...........40...... (ammo 80 / KILL 2 = 40)
M1 Carbine Para:... 40...... (ammo 80 / KILL 2 = 40)
M1 Carbine USMC:..38...... (ammo 75 / KILL 2 = 38)
SVT38/40:.............30...... (ammo 60 / KILL 2 = 30)

Assault Rifles
StG 44:.................53...... (ammo 160 / KILL 3 = 53)
FG42:...................53...... (ammo 160 / KILL 3 = 53)

SMGs would have the least bursts, using up ammo very quickly, which is exactly as it was in real life.

Rifles are the most efficient, which is why most men in the squad were issued rifles.

(10-13-2010, 12:59 PM)keepitloki Wrote: Did British troops really only get 50 rounds per rifle? I believe it but it seems very low.

I think the WW2 standard for most nations was 60, but I'm not certain. The Americans always get a bit carried away (100) :smoke:

Though British riflemen were actually carrying 100 rounds each, but the other 50 were for the Bren gun. I've read that British doctrine considered the LMG 70% of it's section firepower. But 70% seems a bit high to me.

Anyway, this load-out makes more sense when you look at the following:

British section
Rifles 50 each
LMG 1000

US squad
Rifles 100 each
LMG 640


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Messages In This Thread
Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-09-2010, 11:09 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-10-2010, 03:41 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by jadpanther - 10-10-2010, 11:43 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Walrus - 10-10-2010, 11:53 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-11-2010, 04:17 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Weasel - 10-11-2010, 01:17 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-11-2010, 10:30 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Weasel - 10-12-2010, 02:47 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Greybeard - 10-13-2010, 03:13 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-13-2010, 05:46 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-13-2010, 12:59 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-13-2010, 10:41 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Weasel - 10-14-2010, 02:18 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-14-2010, 03:16 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-14-2010, 03:51 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-14-2010, 05:43 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-14-2010, 09:42 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-14-2010, 09:58 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Walrus - 10-14-2010, 09:56 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by keepitloki - 10-14-2010, 11:26 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-14-2010, 10:14 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-15-2010, 01:15 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-14-2010, 09:25 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-15-2010, 01:55 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-15-2010, 06:37 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-15-2010, 09:18 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-18-2010, 09:06 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Greybeard - 10-28-2010, 03:24 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-28-2010, 09:05 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 10-29-2010, 04:22 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-30-2010, 12:04 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-28-2010, 04:43 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Greybeard - 10-30-2010, 03:11 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 10-30-2010, 06:16 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 10-31-2010, 11:18 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 11-04-2010, 08:16 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 11-06-2010, 12:49 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 11-12-2010, 07:01 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by gabeeg - 11-13-2010, 10:25 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by 2ndLt_Fjun - 11-14-2010, 04:58 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Cross - 11-14-2010, 05:19 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Imp - 10-30-2010, 06:38 AM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Vesku - 10-30-2010, 03:13 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Gila - 10-30-2010, 05:38 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Vesku - 10-30-2010, 06:49 PM
RE: Low Ammo OOB - by Gila - 10-30-2010, 07:07 PM

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