Armor Facing Rule

[Herr Straße Laufer]

Verrückte Katze wrote:

A)I am not sure about wrecks, but as for mines and bridges there's a die roll included in the process. It is not like it is automatically done in six minutes. How else would you implement a time consuming process in a six minute engine than using die rolls?

B)This was discussed earlier. Exception to a rule as far as what I have seen with EA. Definitively not the standard how EA works.
I did a lot of examples on another thread on EA, so this is not just my opinion.

C)I have not tried this, but I give you this one. Seems to be a consequence of making built up areas more difficult for tanks.

D)Topic of the thread. Good discussion, many good points I had not considered before.
But, who is "they". If you have a point please be clear about it.

E)I certainly do not mind playing using many of the features you went on this tirade for, and thus intepret your post in a similar manner as Von Manstein.

F)Many new features are only possible with new types of units. Many features are made available as optional rules. Then there's the opportunity to set up ROEs with players who think alike.
I for one am glad the game engine keeps evolving. I would like to see the old engine preserved, so I am with you in hoping new features come via optional rules.

G)Good for you. There's still plenty of us enjoying features you dislike. I mainly posted to support Von Manstein in his reply as I am not clear on who you have on your crosshair either. If you refer to other players, enjoying these features, with "they", I am definitively on Von Manstein's camp.

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A)Mines, wrecks, and bridges take hours to construct or clear. In the game it takes a minimum of six minutes to a maximum of an eternity based on a die roll. In the original version I tolerated the way it worked with mine field clearing. The new units are doing things out of scale, IMO. They, the development team, are the ones to have done that.

B) My experiences are different from yours. They, the development team, first injected EA without full beta testing and it was full of bugs and not optional. It is as artificial as the disrupt overrun of the original. My opinion and I'll keep it.

C) Russian scout cars are most likely to experience this. But, I have seen it happen with light and medium tank types too.

D) Thanks. They are the development team. I have reservations about them based on what I said in "A", "B", and "C" above.

E) One, I have not gone on a "tirade". I wrote out some calm and thoughtful series of opinions based on my experiences. I even stated that I was happy to see things made optional (as with the revision of the original EA intention by the development team. I think some posters would benefit from simply reading my words instead of reading into my words. If von Manstein, Huib, Glint or others want to do that and then take shots at me based on what they think I said, that is their problem and not mine. The old saying is that "if you cannot win the argument" attack the person you are arguing with.
I am always ready to discuss the game and give my opinions. I do that for others but seem to not have that same respect given to me. So be it?
I will continue to discuss the issues and not the posters.

F) Good for you! I do not share all of your "joy" in what they, the Development Team, are doing to the game (not for the game). See "D" above for my reasoning on this. They are the ones who tried to force EA upon the system. They are the ones who added units that are not in scale with the game scale. I just wish they would have done all of that to their stand alone Modern Wars, instead of tinkering with CS.
My opinion and clearly not yours? I hope I will be allowed to have it and not be "attacked" by others less tolerant?

G) Who is "us"? [joke son]
If you are in the Manstein "camp", and think that taking personal shots at posters who want to present a position that is not your own, then I am not in that camp. I also think that your "camp" should refrain from taking personal shots at the posters and stick to commenting on the post (as you have done - so you may not be in their camp anyway).

Lastly, I have stated my positions on Huib and Glint [the new Trampled Tanker - who is still in my ignore list]. Since, I ignore them I do not comment on what they say.
I do see that Glint has taken an opportunity to once again select me for his "tirade" which you also did not object to as you did, for what you called, mine?

All is then fair?
I'm for equal justice. I wish to be treated as fairly as I am treated.

I have no problems with you, I've stated that before directly to you, except that you wish to be in the "camp" of a person whose contribution to this thread was to attack me and not what I wrote. And, that you can ignore the ranting of another but, take it to me for each an every line I write based on what, as you said, "interpret" as my meaning?

I thought the Manstein post was less offensive than the Glint post [which I can hope that the mods would delete from this, almost, fine discussion].

All this wasted effort must drive many of my detractors insane with a desire to post more?



HSL