(05-16-2011, 07:40 AM)Hawk Kriegsman Wrote: So the Llyod Carrier and Bren Carrier are very similar.
You win John. Make it defense 2 (in red of course) like a Bren Carrier.
Thanx!
Hawk
Loved the youtube video HSL, This *is* turning into an interesting discussion!
Based on the armor thickness of the "Lloyd plate" and the fully tracked nature of the design, I was thinking either a 'soft' defense of '3' or a 'hard' defense of '1,' Hawk.
I thought I should include this link as well to add yet more info on what Lloyd carriers were all about:
LLoyd carriers at Wikipedia
The earlier point that seems to have been more-or-less lost in this flurry of posts is that we need to have some kind of consensus as to how defensive values are determined. If no one likes my "10mm = 1 defense value etc." rules, then we need to come up with something so that we have have some defense value consistency across the board. I believe it would be great for our game. Then, we can use actual historical data to figure out a reasonable defense rating for every single vehicle in the game with a minimum of research.
As I said in my first post, most of the defense values for actual tanks seem to be accurate (using my own 'formula'), so finding out-of-whack defense values for the remaining units in the game would not be a herculean task.
Almost forgot. It might be fun to have both types of defense for Lloyd's in the OOB, one (soft defense '3') to reflect a Lloyd without the armor plates attached, the other (hard defense '1') to reflect a Lloyd with the supplemental armor installed. Just a thought.
Comments?