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Kharkov '43 campaign game
07-23-2011, 10:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-23-2011, 11:01 PM by raizer.)
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RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game
IMHO the russians cant dance with the mobile units of the germans.
Several things come to mind:

1Germans can lead and assault with open top marders and AA guns in this game-despite low def values, we saw numerous examples of C guards, at full strength, but disrupted, get pushed out of dug in hexes-900 guys or so, by x marders or xx aa guns...once that chain starts, that can be a big problem-but it is a factor in all the games here we play. We got terribly unlucky in that aspect that several turns in a row, double stacks of guards, retreated the wrong way when assaulted by aa/marders lol! it happens.

2. Artillery set up-dont use it in this scenario. The russians need their arty if they are to have any chance in this opening phase of the GC. There were times when we spent 8-9-10 consecutive turns trying to set up individual arty units.

3. VST-dont use it, and DONT use explicit supply.

4. Alternate Indirect fire should be used. This will hit everything in a hex-which have consequences for anyone using the uber stacks-and especially the aa/marder stacks that can stack up and push infantry around. This one feature will help the russians almost as much as it helps the allies in F40. Combined with no arty set up, it will push the germans to back off a bit and let the russian attack formulate and gain some tempo.

its about tracks in this game-the germans have a lot the russians dont. Whether tracks are soft aa guns, open top marders or panzers-if the german player knows where your stuff is, he can find a way to get in behind you and isolate anything they choose.

Keith and I got crushed because we went out too hard. We are playing indra and stephen in this game as well-with us as the germans, and the ease of maneuver, with good supplies is remarkable. Unfortunately indra and stephen used the same opt rules as we did. SO if they do better than we did, they are to be praised!

I will think of some others...Big Grin
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Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-23-2011, 09:40 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Strela - 07-23-2011, 11:03 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-23-2011, 01:34 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by raizer - 07-23-2011, 10:54 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Arkan - 07-24-2011, 09:59 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Dog Soldier - 07-25-2011, 03:25 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by raizer - 07-25-2011, 04:06 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-24-2011, 11:40 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Witblitz - 07-24-2011, 11:55 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Arkan - 07-25-2011, 05:04 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-25-2011, 07:27 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Dog Soldier - 07-25-2011, 07:51 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Arkan - 07-25-2011, 08:44 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by raizer - 07-25-2011, 11:15 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-25-2011, 12:07 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Strela - 07-25-2011, 05:54 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-26-2011, 03:44 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Witblitz - 07-27-2011, 01:23 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Arkan - 07-27-2011, 10:52 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-28-2011, 12:20 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-29-2011, 12:46 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Hampi90 - 07-29-2011, 01:04 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 07-29-2011, 09:27 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 08-03-2011, 03:39 PM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by HarveyMoon - 08-06-2011, 03:28 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by Arkan - 08-06-2011, 04:04 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by raizer - 08-06-2011, 05:18 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 08-06-2011, 09:36 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by raizer - 09-20-2011, 04:27 AM
RE: Kharkov '43 campaign game - by larsonney - 09-20-2011, 09:41 AM

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