Is this a bug/mistake?

[Hawk Kriegsman]

Hello All,

Every single manual produced for CS states that the gmae scale is
6 minutes / 250 meters. The manual was written by the designers, so to argue their intent seems a bit foolish to me.

Keep in mind that CS is a game of tactical combat. It is not a game of operational combat nor it is a game of stategic battle.

Jason you point out the top 5 most played scenarios and calculate the modified minutes per turn. The only problem with that is that all the units move the same despite the difference in modified times.

I am reasonable sure that you do not believe a unit moving in a 20 minute turn can only move the same distance in a 47.1 minute turn.

The entire OOB's are also not available in our 5 mentioned scenarios., only a portion.

They are tactical snapshots of the battle, not the entire battle.

CS is a tactical combat simulation. It is quite abstract. It is not real combat and it lacks a certain level of realism. It is based on reasearch and the design teams interpretation of that research. Keep in mind a lot of the data they used was from data collected on a proving grounds, which an idea condition to determine a weapons capability. We will never know how accurate the designers are, becasue we have no capacity to witness the actual capabilities first hand.

If everyone would remember this we would all be better off.

We are all here because the game is FUN.

One of the great things about CS is its flexibility. You want a 10 turn fire fight between a couple of companies? You can do it.

You want to recreate Market Garden in total? You can do it.

The larger the scenario and the more time the scenario represents the larger the level abstraction gets. What's so hard to understand about that?

More to the point what is wrong with that?

From all I have read, battles have a lot of down time in between relatively short bursts of intense action.

CS represents the relatively short bursts of action.

If your scenario is well designed and fun I will play it. Whether it is 10 turns and hypothertical or 100 turns and very accurate I will play it.

That is the bottom line.

Yes some of the new units can be a bit of a stretch to one's sensibilities.

So what? Units like that have been around from day one (combat engineers clearing a 250 meter hex of mines or blocks in 6 minutes).

Not too long ago I played Huib's CCR/7 Into the Breach as the Germans. A sizeable portion is stuck behind a river. For many turns I was frustrated and annoyed as my bridging engineers did nothing, but delay a crucial element of my advance. Upon finally building a bridge I had to move fast and furious into battle.

All this time did I care about the abstract nature of the bridging function. NO. I care about getting a :censored: bridge built.

I had FUN.

Thats what it is about.

So to the designers I say keep designing and developing. If you can find the units and design them please do. I can decide if I want to use them or not.

As to new rules. Design away, but make them optional. Let me decide if I like the new rule.

Never forget what the basic building block of CS is 250 meters/ 6 minutes. But please continue to design creative and fun large sceanrios. I can abstract the time scale in my head.

And to all. Relax and have FUN. There is enough here for everyone to have FUN.

Its a game.

Thanx!

Hawk