Engineers

[Von Earlmann]

Roads, no I don't think that's reasonable. There's a lot more to making a passable road, especially for wheeled vehicles, than cutting down some trees. Trails maybe, but not roads.

Actually the American engineers made a road in the Bulge.....I recall it was east of Schoenburg and in the mud........remember we are only limited by our own imaginations......or as I tell the kids at school "When you say I can't.....you will most always be right " :-)

VE

Earl,

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that they couldn't build a road at all. That's probably one of the tasks engineers did all the time.

I was thinking that more in context of a reasonable game scale. Not just 6 minutes either. IMO, a turn would have to be several hours, at a minumum, to build a road through a 250 meter hex in good conditions. To build a road in muddy conditions that would support wheeled traffic would take even longer since you'd likely have to line the road with something (trees or PSP or something).

Mike

Mike,
I didn't take offense but was musing as my rcollection of this is fuzzy....seems they built the road and did use trees as filler......it ended up being an important escape road also as I recall....but that's just my recollection of something I read a few years ago.

Not sure how or if it could be incorporated into the game or if it even needs to be, but I do agree it would be better used in the large scenarios. We are getting bigger and bigger scenarios now with the capabilities of the computers. I remember trying to play a big scenario back in the early 2000's and my comp would freeze up trying to watch the replay...now I can't keep up with the replay :-)

VE

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Oh heck - I can see the fuse running to the powder keg on this thread all ready!

My 2 pence - A combat dozer can flatten a fairly large tree in 1-2 minutes so that fits in with the game scale, however building a road/track in that time seems silly. But I would like to see some form of unit capable of making woods more accessible.

The game scale debate is almost as much fun as the......dare I say...........wait for it...........HALFTRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I reckon if we can have engineers build a bridge across a non fordable river they probably could make something thru the woods.

As for game scale the 250 meter hex is not the problem. It works out quite well actually. It's the 6 minute/turn thingy that generates the debate..........and HALFTRACKS!!!!!!!!....YEEHAH!!!!!!!!

VE