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Bite the Bullet Tournament Medal Poll
01-27-2012, 02:47 PM,
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RE: Bite the Bullet Tournament Medal Poll
Greetings gents,

I’d like to offer the following information for the record and discussion:

In Germany, Strafgesetzbuch § 86a makes it a criminal offense to display the swastika (among other things) with a few exceptions for scholarly purposes and as religious symbols of Jainism, Buddhism, and other denominations. EU Commission efforts in 2001 and Germany efforts in the mid-2000s aiming to extend this law to the entire EU were unsuccessful (primarily for religious reasons).

Germany's position is mirrored in Austria’s criminal statutes as well. In Hungary it is illegal (punishable by fine) to display any totalitarian symbolism (this includes the hammer and sickle as well). In Poland, public display of Nazi symbols is a criminal offence punishable by up to eight years of imprisonment (Poland has broadened this to include Soviet symbology as well, with the banning of Che Guevara t-shrits for example - he has a star on his beret - I've been curious though because in some versions the star is black, does that pass, or if the star is removed entirely but Che is still recognizeable? But I digress). Interestingly enough, Brazil also has laws resulting in imprisonment for display of the swastika (among other things).

While most of my exposure to EU law came in the mid-90s involving beer import/export (a much more enjoyable topic, let me tell you), I am familiar with US laws allowing the display of the symbol to used as evidence of hate crimes and these various EU member nations statutes. Also, the “servers sit in Canada” arguments have been tried in other contexts and have been found spurious. It’s the same as broadcasting into a country from an outside source (say child pornography or other offensive material similiarly prohibited by law) and then trying to say that nation has no right to enforce its laws to prevent such violations. Courts tend not to buy that for reasons I won’t get into here.

Like I said, I’m not trying to tell anyone what to believe, I’m making the argument that the club as a whole should make an informed decision regarding the affirmative display of this and any other symbol that is considered illegal in some jurisdictions or carries huge potential baggage the would reflect very badly on the club and its membership if misconstrued. How this decision is made is irrelevant to me (by vote, by executive decision, whatever…). Groups carry a heavy responsibility when professing to speak for all their members. We should not make such decisions lightly.

On the topic of the Red Star, for example, I personally feel that this is far less offensive, but my personal feelings are irrelevant to the issue and I would completely support prohibiting its use in club-offered medals and such, for the same reasons stated above. One of my job duties for clients is to point out worst case scenarios and in this case, technically, the club could be sued in these jurisdictions. Note, I’m not saying it would be, only that the law would allow it, nor am I making any pronouncement on whether such a suit would be successful (far too much would depend on the specifics involved for one thing), only that it is possible. For all these reasons, I recommend against it, but it is not my final decision, but the club’s.

Thanks for reading that ramble, and I'd like to add again that I think that bite out of the bullet symbol is outstanding. A far more talented artist than I.

LR
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