The Competition & Teaser Thread

[ComradeP]

I feel incredibly silly. Even though LSSAH's divisional colours have been posted near the beginning of this thread, I assumed the large scenario map posted could include LSSAH.

So, the map seems to display Das Reich and Totenkopf, though there are either some LSSAH Panzers around or some Panzer unit has a colour that, when the map is zoomed out, is very similar. The colour of the unit in the south also doesn't look as bright as on the earlier screenshot, but I assume it's the same division.

As it's not a hypothetical scenario, it's not Wiking unless it covers an operation during Rumyantsev west of Kharkov, which wouldn't fit on the map.

Das Reich and Totenkopf were only next to eachother at the start of the offensive, so even if this somehow represents a Soviet counterattack (on the 6th?) there's the problem that 30 kilometres down on the eastern part of the map we're already at or beyond Belgorod, so that can't be it either, also as the 167th would be moving up there after a few days anyway so it would need to be real early on.

It's been a long while since I've been this puzzled about the positions of units shown on a map: it isn't Prokhorovka as LSSAH would have to be at the center, a very early counterattack wouldn't fit due to the Soviets on the eastern part of the map otherwise being in Belgorod at this scale, and the Rumyantsev counterattack area is northwest of Kharkov and would require at least twice the map size on the Y axis for a map also covering Prokhorovka (not to mention that the SS attacked from the south there).

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And a question: at this scale, how are HQ's that command the same units as their parent HQ represented (or higher HQ's commanding the same units as lower HQ's but with another HQ in between)? For example: 10th Panzer Brigade>39th Panzer Regiment>Panzer Abteilung 51 and 52. Are both the 39th Panzer Regiment and 10th Panzer Brigade active HQ's?

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Some interesting (possibly not entirely correct) trivia: according to Wagener in his book Heeresgruppe Süd, the tally of incapacitated or killed German commanders for Zitadelle was: 7 divisional commanders, 38 regimental commanders and no less than 252 battalion commanders.