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Black Sea Discussions
04-21-2015, 11:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-22-2015, 04:20 AM by PoorOldSpike.)
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RE: Black Sea Discussions
I'm guessing that the APS defeating the T-HEAT round in the earlier screenshot is legitimate because the APS gives it a "tap on the nose" to make it detonate before hitting the tank.
But why the T-90 crew fired it at the Abrams in the first place instead of APFSDS is a puzzle.
I ran the following tests to find out who fires what in an Abrams(APS) vs T-90AM (APS) tank battle, and found-
1- all the tanks on both sides fired only APFSDS, which is realistic
2- the APS of both sides never tried to intercept the APFSDS rounds, that too is realistic.

The test- I lined up two groups of 5 tanks at opposite ends of the map (range 700m) and let them start shooting, and monitored ammo depletion each turn. (the enemy tanks ARE there, they just haven't been spotted yet in these screenshots)-
[Image: BS-T-90-v-Abrams2_zpslcuxjhwf.jpg~original]

[Image: BS-T-90-v-Abrams1_zpsrb2ul02i.jpg~original]

The T-90's came off worst in the battle (below), and in further tests I had to reduce the number of Abrams in to give the T-90's a chance; I estimate the Russians need about 5 to 3 odds, reminiscent of WW2 when Sherman 75mm's had to outnumber Tigers and Panthers to stand a chance of winning.
The key to the Abrams superiority seems to be in its excellent optics which spot the enemy quickly, enabling the Abrams to fire first.
"The day goes to whoever is first to plaster the enemy with fire"- Erwin Rommel
"Whoever fires first, wins"- Israeli tank doctrine, Yom Kippur War

[Image: BS-T-90-v-Abrams3_zpsloavr8an.jpg~original]


However, if the T-90 can get its act together, it can certainly hurt the Abrams bad as this screenshot shows, this Abrams is riddled and trashed by 6 APFSDS rounds that punched clean through its front armour.
"Oh cursed be the hand that made these fatal holes!"-Richard III
[Image: BS-Abrams%20APS-pen-by-T-90_zpsi8ic5jpu.jpg~original]
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Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-07-2015, 06:41 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 04-08-2015, 12:18 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 04-08-2015, 03:53 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-08-2015, 04:06 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-17-2015, 07:11 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-19-2015, 03:26 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 04-19-2015, 10:06 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-19-2015, 01:03 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by wiggum - 04-19-2015, 11:26 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 04-20-2015, 05:17 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-21-2015, 11:52 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by GAZNZ - 04-21-2015, 06:36 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 04-22-2015, 01:14 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 04-22-2015, 05:46 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-22-2015, 08:17 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by GAZNZ - 04-22-2015, 11:14 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-22-2015, 03:32 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-22-2015, 03:35 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-22-2015, 03:46 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-22-2015, 03:55 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by GAZNZ - 04-22-2015, 04:08 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-22-2015, 04:40 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 04-22-2015, 06:38 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 04-22-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 04-23-2015, 01:25 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-23-2015, 02:29 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 04-23-2015, 04:28 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-23-2015, 05:24 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-23-2015, 06:20 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-23-2015, 06:29 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by GAZNZ - 04-24-2015, 05:26 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-24-2015, 02:29 PM
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RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-26-2015, 09:29 PM
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RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-26-2015, 09:31 PM
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RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-29-2015, 05:19 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 04-29-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 04-30-2015, 12:39 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 04-30-2015, 03:38 AM
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RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-06-2015, 09:24 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-07-2015, 01:05 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-07-2015, 01:31 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-07-2015, 02:49 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-07-2015, 12:57 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-07-2015, 01:11 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-07-2015, 01:43 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-07-2015, 12:59 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-07-2015, 03:18 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-07-2015, 04:14 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-07-2015, 08:50 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-08-2015, 01:18 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-08-2015, 02:10 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-08-2015, 04:10 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-12-2015, 02:10 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-12-2015, 03:01 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-12-2015, 10:17 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-13-2015, 12:31 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-13-2015, 03:32 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-14-2015, 09:53 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-16-2015, 02:47 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-16-2015, 03:11 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by A Canadian Cat - 05-16-2015, 05:15 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-16-2015, 07:35 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by GAZNZ - 05-16-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-19-2015, 03:54 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by Grober - 05-19-2015, 05:09 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-21-2015, 04:05 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 05-21-2015, 04:12 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 06-11-2015, 03:22 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 06-17-2015, 01:18 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 07-11-2015, 08:26 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by raz_atoth - 07-23-2015, 09:29 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 07-25-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 07-17-2015, 11:07 AM
RE: Black Sea Discussions - by PoorOldSpike - 07-22-2015, 11:25 AM

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