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Feature requests
01-03-2016, 03:02 PM,
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RE: Feature requests
(01-03-2016, 12:16 PM)ComradeP Wrote: But as you don't know when/if a unit is spotted, or feels it's spotted, it also means you can't be sure if opportunity fire works.

The team discussed this extensively in testing Kursk.  Why would you know if one of your units was spotted?  Should the enemy spotting unit raise a flag that says I see you?

This is just one of the things in battle you just cannot be sure of knowing.  FOW.  I think it is really cool that this uncertainty exists in the game as it leads the player to make decisions from a position of uncertainty.  Just like a real commander. 

ComradeP Wrote:There are other oddities in the system that make me suspect the system might sometimes "reset" a unit by accident. Artillery defensive fire seems to be more frequent when there are fewer units around: Axis Nebelwerfers in a scenario like Authie or Carpiquet seem to fire more often than our artillery did in 5th of July. In Ozerovskii, single Soviet tank units fired more often than a broken down Panzer battalion. When it happens once, I'd say it's randomness, but there does seem to be something odd going on. It seems to work normally for infantry units, but not for gun and vehicle units. It might just be an impression, I'll run some tests at some point.

You are comparing apples and oranges.  Not a fair contrast.
Nebelwerfers in PzB Normandy #0607_02_Authie: 12th SS Riposte are A quality.  Nebelwerfers in PzB Kursk 0705_01 II SS PzK - July 5: SS Attack are all A quality.
Soviet regular army heavy artillery in PzB Kursk 0705_01 II SS PzK - July 5: SS Attack are D quality.  Soviet guards rockets and heavy artillery are C quality.
Naturally the A quality artillery will fire more often than the C & D quality artillery will.

#0704_01: Carpiquet - Operation Windsor the Nebelwerfers are C quality.  The battlefield is smaller than in 0705_01 II SS PzK July 5 SS Attack so maybe this plays into having more targets as the Allied units cannot spread out as much.

Or it may be be your instinct is misleading you about artillery firing more often in one scenario than in another.  I thought such things before when playing test PzB Kursk games with Strela.  I thought he was pounding me and later found out he thought I had the upper hand.  It can be hard to tell, which is a good FOW IMHO.  In testing such things I found no hard data to support such intuitions.

If you were thinking my German Nebelwerfers were not firing much in our game of 0705_01 II SS PzK - July 5: SS Attack, that is because I set their opportunity fire to Never at different times to keep them from being found by the counter battery fire OR.  During the entire 38 turns of the game, I got exactly the results I wanted and never had any problem with my artillery firing off in defensive fire if the opportunity fire for a battery where it was turned off .  So, I am having a hard time believing it is the game system here that is at fault.

BTW, for those not familiar with PzB Kursk 0705_01 II SS PzK July 5 SS Attack scenario, there are a lot of Axis Nebelwerfers units in that scenario.  I think about 10 different batteries of Nebelwerfers.  Not a problem with their opportunity fire orders from my POV in my  game with ComradeP.


ComradeP Wrote:Regardless of the results setting you have selected, if your opponent has on-map results turned off, you'll get that as well.

That is the same as in any PBEM game of PzC or SB.  It is a newbie error in PBEM with these games systems.  I just let a new player know this and they turn on the on map results.  Having the fire results dialog turned on is mostly for people playing the AI to test things out.  That is a common social norm here at the Blitz.  No worries if someone new does it.  Even a veteran can forget once in a while if they were playing some with the function in an AI game, then loaded a PBEM game.  The setting would carry over.  In such a case most people turn off the dialog and return to on map results pretty quickly in their turn.  I do not see that as a big deal at all.

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Messages In This Thread
Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-03-2016, 05:34 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Dog Soldier - 01-03-2016, 07:28 AM
RE: Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-03-2016, 08:09 AM
RE: Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-03-2016, 08:24 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Dog Soldier - 01-03-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: Feature requests - by wiggum - 01-03-2016, 08:40 AM
RE: Feature requests - by wiggum - 01-03-2016, 09:03 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Dog Soldier - 01-03-2016, 09:33 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Dog Soldier - 01-03-2016, 09:17 AM
RE: Feature requests - by wiggum - 01-03-2016, 10:07 AM
RE: Feature requests - by GerryM - 01-03-2016, 10:15 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Strela - 01-03-2016, 03:08 PM
RE: Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-03-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Dog Soldier - 01-03-2016, 03:02 PM
RE: Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-03-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Strela - 01-03-2016, 08:58 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Dog Soldier - 01-04-2016, 04:36 AM
RE: Feature requests - by wiggum - 01-03-2016, 10:10 PM
RE: Feature requests - by chrisp - 01-15-2016, 08:30 AM
RE: Feature requests - by wiggum - 01-03-2016, 10:50 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Strela - 01-03-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: Feature requests - by wiggum - 01-04-2016, 04:38 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Volcano Man - 01-05-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-14-2016, 03:59 AM
RE: Feature requests - by chrisp - 01-15-2016, 12:22 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Plain Ian - 01-18-2016, 11:03 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 01-15-2016, 01:20 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Outlaw Josey Wales - 01-15-2016, 01:26 AM
RE: Feature requests - by chrisp - 01-17-2016, 02:57 AM
RE: Feature requests - by chrisp - 01-17-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Feature requests - by chrisp - 01-20-2016, 12:50 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 01-22-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: Feature requests - by ComradeP - 01-24-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: Feature requests - by panzerde - 01-25-2016, 01:04 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 01-25-2016, 02:13 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 03-12-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pinetree - 03-14-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: Feature requests - by kolc - 03-12-2016, 11:23 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 03-14-2016, 07:51 AM
RE: Feature requests - by FroBodine - 03-14-2016, 10:47 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 03-14-2016, 08:35 PM
RE: Feature requests - by BigDuke66 - 03-22-2016, 08:33 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 04-09-2016, 02:11 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 04-10-2016, 05:31 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 04-30-2016, 06:00 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Strela - 04-30-2016, 09:23 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 04-30-2016, 08:26 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 05-08-2016, 11:02 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 05-21-2016, 07:04 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Strela - 05-21-2016, 09:28 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 05-21-2016, 03:55 PM
RE: Feature requests - by jmlima - 06-03-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 05-29-2016, 03:19 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 05-31-2016, 09:02 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Strela - 06-01-2016, 11:13 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 06-02-2016, 12:04 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 06-03-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: Feature requests - by javier - 06-06-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: Feature requests - by javier - 06-20-2016, 07:02 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 06-20-2016, 08:42 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 06-20-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 06-21-2016, 02:52 AM
RE: Feature requests - by javier - 06-21-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 07-24-2016, 06:15 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Ricky B - 07-24-2016, 09:05 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 07-24-2016, 07:43 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 08-27-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: Feature requests - by -72- - 09-08-2016, 08:31 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 09-08-2016, 08:21 PM
RE: Feature requests - by -72- - 09-09-2016, 12:25 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Don Czirr - 09-03-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Wodin - 09-08-2016, 03:44 AM
RE: Feature requests - by Pepe Botijo - 10-25-2016, 07:49 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 01-02-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Feature requests - by Xaver - 03-01-2017, 10:05 PM

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