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Normandy Patch Update
02-15-2016, 09:20 PM,
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My 2 Cents  RE: Normandy Patch Update
(02-15-2016, 08:31 PM)ComradeP Wrote: That would be difficult to balance, as the complete control and information the player has means he will always be able to play more efficiently than was historically the case. This is amplified by having played a scenario before and knowing roughly what to expect in terms of opposition and when it is likely to arrive in a certain area.

A pinned state, or more frequent disruptions, would probably hurt the attacker more than you think. With many C quality units facing A and B quality units, it could slow the Allied advance to a crawl and make defensive fire (more) murderous as units would be more exposed to it.

Computer wargames are hardly ever "realistic" in terms of casualties as virtual troops don't think about their own safety, PB is not worse than most other in that area. I have a much greater problem with how losses can develop in games like Steel Panthers, Close Combat or Combat Mission, where your force might be wiped out completely, than here.

I am also a bit skeptic about making disruption far more common, I feel much of that problem is taken care of by the increased casualty rates that also in my imagination account for troops bogging down and not being able to be commanded forward. I fear such changes would imbalance much of the scenarios and introduce the need of re-designing a lot of the work including values and morale of the troops.

I feel the current assault model is an approximation to pinning too. As long as the defenders are not disrupted they manage to hold the enemy at some 100 meters range. Assaults are ordered, but is pinned or stalled as the attacker taking losses. I was of the believe that in non-open terrain as the current area there would be possible to close in on an enemy without too heavy losses, but with losses mounting when getting close.

I do really feel the game gives the expected results on the average in almost all situations and promoting tactics close to the ones used historically.
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Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-19-2016, 01:51 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 01-19-2016, 02:15 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by casebier - 01-19-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-22-2016, 09:48 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-23-2016, 09:08 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Chris Merchant - 01-23-2016, 08:40 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by GerryM - 01-24-2016, 03:27 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-24-2016, 03:45 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 01-26-2016, 05:52 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-23-2016, 10:18 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-24-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-24-2016, 02:10 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by GerryM - 01-24-2016, 03:53 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Gregor - 01-24-2016, 07:02 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-25-2016, 04:31 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Nemo84 - 01-26-2016, 05:07 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-26-2016, 08:06 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-30-2016, 03:43 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-30-2016, 09:47 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-26-2016, 08:13 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 01-24-2016, 03:36 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-24-2016, 10:38 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-25-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-25-2016, 04:12 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-26-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 01-26-2016, 07:30 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-26-2016, 09:05 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-28-2016, 07:41 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-05-2016, 10:55 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-06-2016, 03:54 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Xaver - 02-06-2016, 06:53 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-06-2016, 11:25 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-14-2016, 08:13 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-14-2016, 09:04 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-14-2016, 10:39 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-07-2016, 02:55 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-07-2016, 06:20 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-07-2016, 08:57 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-07-2016, 10:04 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by GerryM - 02-14-2016, 09:45 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-14-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-14-2016, 09:59 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by panzerde - 02-15-2016, 04:32 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-15-2016, 05:39 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-15-2016, 07:06 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-15-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Gregor - 02-15-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-16-2016, 05:05 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-16-2016, 05:54 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-16-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Mike Bowen - 02-17-2016, 04:54 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-17-2016, 11:09 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-17-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-17-2016, 11:04 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Mike Bowen - 02-18-2016, 04:02 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Wecky - 02-18-2016, 09:19 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by panzerde - 02-23-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-24-2016, 04:03 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-24-2016, 08:54 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-24-2016, 09:55 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-24-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-25-2016, 03:07 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-25-2016, 09:29 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-28-2016, 11:02 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 02-28-2016, 11:48 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Hadge - 02-29-2016, 12:10 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 02-29-2016, 01:50 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-29-2016, 08:02 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Kuriltai - 02-29-2016, 08:28 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-29-2016, 11:05 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 02-29-2016, 04:32 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 03-08-2016, 02:23 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 03-08-2016, 05:20 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 03-08-2016, 08:43 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 03-08-2016, 09:24 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 03-09-2016, 12:18 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 03-09-2016, 05:31 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by -72- - 03-11-2016, 08:25 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Don Czirr - 03-20-2016, 11:35 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 04-10-2016, 12:11 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 04-11-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 04-12-2016, 02:45 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 04-23-2016, 09:28 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 04-23-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by -72- - 04-23-2016, 02:46 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Xaver - 04-24-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 04-29-2016, 06:44 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 04-30-2016, 12:04 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Xaver - 04-30-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 05-07-2016, 08:46 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-08-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-08-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 05-08-2016, 10:57 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-08-2016, 11:14 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 05-09-2016, 12:02 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-09-2016, 12:39 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 05-08-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 05-09-2016, 05:37 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Al - 05-09-2016, 05:59 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 05-10-2016, 01:50 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ekebrev - 05-10-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by DaveMic - 05-10-2016, 07:31 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-11-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 05-11-2016, 08:58 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Vatutin - 05-11-2016, 02:57 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Lowlander - 05-12-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-13-2016, 01:06 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Lowlander - 05-13-2016, 08:03 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-14-2016, 01:55 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Lowlander - 05-14-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-12-2016, 11:38 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-13-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-13-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-13-2016, 05:49 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-13-2016, 08:13 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-14-2016, 01:33 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-13-2016, 08:28 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-14-2016, 01:43 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-13-2016, 08:47 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-13-2016, 11:02 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-13-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Xaver - 05-14-2016, 04:55 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-16-2016, 04:12 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 05-16-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-17-2016, 01:16 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-19-2016, 04:18 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-19-2016, 06:32 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-19-2016, 08:33 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-19-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-19-2016, 09:19 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-19-2016, 10:20 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-19-2016, 10:22 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 05-19-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-24-2016, 05:49 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 05-25-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-26-2016, 12:04 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-26-2016, 01:45 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-26-2016, 01:56 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-26-2016, 02:41 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-27-2016, 03:18 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-28-2016, 10:04 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Don Czirr - 06-05-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 06-06-2016, 02:46 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Don Czirr - 06-06-2016, 06:43 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 06-06-2016, 01:06 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Don Czirr - 06-07-2016, 07:01 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Hadge - 06-15-2016, 04:12 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Lowlander - 06-15-2016, 08:24 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by javier - 07-14-2016, 04:29 PM

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