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Normandy Patch Update
05-26-2016, 01:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-26-2016, 02:14 AM by Bayes.)
RE: Normandy Patch Update
(05-26-2016, 01:45 AM)ComradeP Wrote: I'm not sure that morale check rule for losses actually works as documented Bayes, as statistically speaking <5 Men/D results should be very rare instead of uncommon in that case. For a battalion, a loss of 5 Men should lead to a morale check only once every 400 attacks and 1 Man loss results only once every 1600 attacks on average.

Also: battalions, particularly in older PzC games tend to be "PB size" at around 450 men to around 600 men. The only large battalions are those in recent PzC games where the Germans have 4 company battalions with abstracted heavy weapons, at 800 to 950 Men.

Note that the size of the unit in Men isn't part of the calculation, so an old PzC 450 Men battalion has the same chance of Disrupting from a certain number of losses than a 1000+ Men FWWC battalion.

The losses also only influence the chance a morale check is required, if the system works as documented, not that a morale check is passed. Losing 1 Man or 50 Men both might lead to the same morale check based purely on Quality. This causes those Soviet D quality units to go down like bowling pins in PzC.

Actually, not that rare. Disruption from a single loss (1 Man/D) would happen 8% of the time for a Company with Morale D in Panzer Campaigns and 3% of the time in Panzer Battles. I think this disruption rate is exactly what we are observing, but I may be wrong...

If the rules on page 90 are no longer working (you suggest that?), that would be a pity, because clearly the size of the unit and the size of the loss should influence chance of disruption.

Are you stating that the game instead triggers a Morale Check automatically, independently of loss and unit size?
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Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-19-2016, 01:51 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Compass Rose - 01-19-2016, 02:15 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by casebier - 01-19-2016, 08:56 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-22-2016, 09:48 PM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by GerryM - 01-24-2016, 03:27 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-24-2016, 03:45 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 01-26-2016, 05:52 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-23-2016, 10:18 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-24-2016, 01:09 AM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by GerryM - 01-24-2016, 03:53 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Gregor - 01-24-2016, 07:02 AM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-26-2016, 08:06 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-30-2016, 03:43 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 01-30-2016, 09:47 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 01-26-2016, 08:13 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 01-24-2016, 03:36 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-24-2016, 10:38 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-25-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-25-2016, 04:12 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-26-2016, 06:47 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by FroBodine - 01-26-2016, 07:30 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by nim8or - 01-26-2016, 09:05 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 01-28-2016, 07:41 PM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by wiggum - 02-05-2016, 10:55 PM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by panzerde - 02-15-2016, 04:32 AM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Strela - 02-29-2016, 11:05 AM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-24-2016, 05:49 AM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-26-2016, 12:04 AM
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RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-26-2016, 01:56 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by ComradeP - 05-26-2016, 02:41 AM
RE: Normandy Patch Update - by Bayes - 05-27-2016, 03:18 AM
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