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Introducing Wargame Design Studios
08-24-2016, 08:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-24-2016, 09:00 PM by wiggum.)
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RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios
(08-24-2016, 08:40 PM)BigDuke66 Wrote: Wait wait, we must clearly differ between convenient mainstream games and real hardcore grognard stuff. The former may do well on Steam but if the later does so... I'm not sure.
"Gary Grigsby's War in the East" & "Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa" try to make playing a difficult topic an easy way, too easy for me and too easy for a real Grognard, so it's no surprise that they do well on steam.

Overall I'm worried that the customer base changes so much to wannabe strategist that each new game gets shallower than the one before just to please this new customer base.
If steam is really considered, think more than twice about it.

There we go again...
Honestly, with a customer attitude like this no wonder Tiller wargames are stuck in the DOS and Win95 age of gaming...

What you say is NOT TRUE !
"Gary Grigsby's War in the East" & "Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa" are both far more complex to understand and play then PzB !
Also, both offer far less "action" and are much more "dry" in their gameplay.
Both are MUCH more "Grognard" then PzB !

If you think "Gary Grigsby's War in the East" is a watered down game for the "wannabe strategist" on Steam then i really doubt how much you know about wargaming.

There are many hardcore games on Steam, from highly realistic combat flight simulators over complex 2D RPG's to highly complex wargames.
Not one of these hardcore games got ever "shallower" in gameplay over time just to please the (as you call them) "wannabe" audience on Steam !
Some may got more accessible, got better tutorials, a better UI or better manuals...is this a bad thing ?

Your talk about "wannabe strategist" shows a elitist attitude that hurts the game and the whole wargaming community and reeks of ignorance.

You WANT your "hardcore grognard" games to stay as cumbersome and anti-modern (speaking of the UI for example) as possible, and sold only in the hidden corners of the internet where only "real" grognards meet. Thats silly !
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Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Strela - 08-20-2016, 11:37 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by berto - 08-21-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Al - 08-21-2016, 02:40 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by berto - 08-21-2016, 03:30 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-21-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-21-2016, 09:15 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-22-2016, 04:17 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-22-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-22-2016, 09:07 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-23-2016, 03:30 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-23-2016, 05:17 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-24-2016, 06:14 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-24-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by wiggum - 08-24-2016, 08:45 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-24-2016, 09:26 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-24-2016, 11:30 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-25-2016, 03:13 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-25-2016, 04:19 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by -72- - 08-25-2016, 08:22 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-25-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-25-2016, 08:19 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Al - 08-25-2016, 10:49 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by -72- - 08-26-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by -72- - 08-27-2016, 11:32 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-26-2016, 06:40 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-26-2016, 08:19 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-26-2016, 09:12 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-26-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-27-2016, 09:01 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by berto - 08-28-2016, 01:53 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by -72- - 08-28-2016, 07:17 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 08-29-2016, 05:15 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-02-2016, 08:02 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-09-2016, 09:07 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-12-2016, 08:03 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-12-2016, 11:23 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-13-2016, 09:26 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-16-2016, 09:11 PM
Less hexy rivers, streams etc - by phoenix - 09-23-2016, 06:42 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 09-24-2016, 01:14 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 10-09-2016, 08:42 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 10-30-2016, 10:00 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 11-09-2016, 06:10 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 01-30-2017, 09:15 PM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by berto - 02-01-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: Introducing Wargame Design Studios - by Xaver - 02-02-2017, 03:53 AM

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