WitE 2 and WitE discussion

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I was just saying to my wife that I still have no clue what I am doing (playing road to Kiev against AI, lost as Germany twice so trying as Russia).  I was thinking about getting War in the Pacific but I think it is more complicated than WITE.

I agree, has to be something awesome which I don't think 2 will be.

Hi Weasal, 

I have both WITE and WITP. The main difference for me was WITE has week turns and WITP days (up to 3 IRC). I played a lot of Uncommon valor which is kinda of WITP lite. I could not get past the one day at a time turns in WITP. There are long stretches of time where you are just managing logistics. In addition there is nothing worse than making it to 1944 and finding out you botched any chance at victory.

I get it, some guys like it. I also think it is all they play. The time commitment IMO is large. If you have doubts, I would recommend a pass. It is not just for everyone. I personally do not recommend it due to the time investment.

As far as WITE 2 the big changes are the map and logistics being brought up to WITW standard with a final goal of connecting it all into a massive Europa game. With all the different forum post it is hard to figure out (so this may have changed since I last looked). If they add WITW air war to WITE 2 it will kill it for me. The turns will take too long to play and it is hard finding opponents for the long haul as it is now (which is a problem in any monster game/scenario, although players at the Blitz are far superior, just sayin'). I have a lot of gaming time on my hands, but I feel most players do not. Not to mention they really need to figure out a better way to maintain the manual. Relying on the player base is not the way to go IMO.

With that said.................

I would recommend playing WITE in the following scenario order. Play both sides. 

Road to Minsk (AGC learn opening moves)
Road to Leningrad (AGN opening moves)
Road to Kiev (AGS Opening moves)
Operation Typhoon (Contains all types of weather and learning the basic of Soviet Blizzard offense)
Operation Bargration (Managing the Soviet steam roller, late war units, Lost Battles DLC)

Then play a Campaign, Bitter End seems to be popular. This will cover the basics. Rinse and repeat. I have 200 hours in and I am getting a good handle on the game. It just has quite a commitment.

Also download this manual, it is easier to read than the stock manual. 

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4083700

As usual,  playing the AI vs Player is completely different. Your main issue vs a player is player knowledge (and skill). If you are causal and just move units about, and I micro all my support, air, supply  (etc etc, ) then chances are you probably won't win. I would go through those scenarios and look for another new player. Start causal and go from there if you both like. WITE is one game that really only works if the players are on the same field, IMO.

This is just my perspective. What works for me, isn't for everyone. I enjoy WITE immensely, but I agree with your sentiment, 2.0 has to be a real game changer for me to drop more money and time on it.

Hope this helps. Have a great day!