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Musings on Normandy
03-19-2018, 12:55 AM,
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Musings on Normandy
So after a looong hiatus, I've started exploring my PzC collection again.
And I've run into a slight snag.

When playing the Alt version of Omaha, that beach is....well, kinda lethal. :)
The only real option is to hammer the trench at Colleville, and pray that your engineers stay undisrupted long enough to breach the AT-ditch. It's (almost) a waste of time trying to disrupt defenders in bunkers/pillboxes with artillery, and the odds of tanks staying alive long enough to use direct fire, let alone assault are pretty slim.
And with the Mac PDT, trying to assault Hard targets without armor-support is futile.

Even worse, I prefer the Alternate Fire optional rule, at least for artillery and airpower.
Never seemed right to me that you'd be able to target a single unit, certainly not with area fire.
But using Alternate Fire at Omaha means that every attack will hit every unit, and the fatigue skyrockets into the 100+ after 2 turns. After 3-4 turns you're looking at several units in each hex with Max fatigue, and you're never getting off that beach.

So I tried again, this time without the Alternate fire rule, and this time I got off the beach with historical(ish) results.
But that was against the AI.
So I tried a third time, this time Hot-seating, and simply targeted every engineer I could lay my Teutonic eyes on.
And sure enough, nobody got off that beach.

So here's my problem.
With Alternate fire on, you're dead, plain and simple. The fatigue goes up far too fast to get anywhere, and pushing reinforcements onto the beach means higher stacks which only accelerates the process.
Without Alternate fire, the problem is that both players are fully aware of which hexes are vulnerable, so all engineers in the merest vicinity of those hexes become instant bullet-magnets.
Not to mention that unless the German player is a complete moron, he'll cycle whatever fresh units he can into those fortifications, prolonging the time spent at the seaside.

Am I missing something here, or is this simply a case of the PzC engine not doing seaborne invasions particularly well?
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Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-19-2018, 12:55 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Ocito80 - 03-19-2018, 03:52 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-19-2018, 05:06 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Plain Ian - 03-25-2018, 09:38 PM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Mr Grumpy - 03-26-2018, 03:37 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Plain Ian - 03-26-2018, 05:11 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Vasili.I.Chuikov - 03-26-2018, 07:27 PM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Plain Ian - 03-26-2018, 10:01 PM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-27-2018, 02:35 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by lycortas - 03-27-2018, 04:04 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Mr Grumpy - 03-27-2018, 05:20 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Vasili.I.Chuikov - 03-27-2018, 05:37 PM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-28-2018, 02:22 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Plain Ian - 03-28-2018, 08:12 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by lycortas - 03-28-2018, 08:19 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-28-2018, 09:19 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Plain Ian - 03-29-2018, 06:20 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-29-2018, 07:05 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Plain Ian - 04-01-2018, 06:28 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Vasili.I.Chuikov - 03-28-2018, 06:05 PM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by CheerfullyInsane - 03-28-2018, 10:21 PM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Vasili.I.Chuikov - 03-29-2018, 02:07 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by lycortas - 03-29-2018, 07:33 AM
RE: Musings on Normandy - by Vasili.I.Chuikov - 03-29-2018, 10:32 PM

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