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France '40 Gold Team Game
01-05-2019, 05:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-05-2019, 05:22 AM by Plain Ian.)
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RE: France '40 Gold Team Game
(01-05-2019, 04:48 AM)ComradeP Wrote: A pillbox represents anything better than a log/concrete bunker, and at a 1km/hex scale a series of fortifications or a single big one. Fortifications with a facing might be more suitable for a smaller map scale series like Squad Battles.

FWWC has various types of fortifications, but I'm not sure how complicated it would be to add genuine forts to PzC for the handful of scenarios that could use them.

Only a small part of the Maginot Line was successfully assaulted, the other garrisons indeed surrendered after being attacked from the flank and rear.

I had forgotten about it, but there's another good reason why alt fire rules might make the game too difficult for the Allied players: the game uses the Fragile Morale rule for most if not all Allied nations (I'm not sure about the British). Coupled with a higher disruption chance as each attack can hit multiple units in a stack with or without cherry picking due to not using Delayed Disruption Reporting, low quality units might melt away a bit too quickly.

For those unfamiliar with the Fragile Morale rule: units of C quality and below surrender when they are assaulted in a position from where they can't retreat, instead of losing about 1/2 of their strength per successful assault like other units would. In FWWC, there are also consequences for the morale level of Detached units and disruption recovery, but I'm not sure if any of that applies to PzC as Detached units don't face a penalty to their quality level.

I realize that there's a need for the German offensive to be able to quickly move through weakly held areas, but that's quite possible already without potentially disrupting multiple units with a single attack.

It sounds like you need to test out these concerns by playing a small scenario? 

By the way the facing idea was just a fanciful idea. Like giving the Germans small German airborne units with very high Assault factors to represent shaped charges so they can assault fortresses etc. Make them single use to prevent abuse?
Hmm yes I know this is already in the game. Doh.
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France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-23-2018, 03:00 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Mike Prucha - 12-23-2018, 03:47 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 12-23-2018, 03:54 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-23-2018, 05:36 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 12-23-2018, 07:53 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Dodo98 - 12-23-2018, 07:59 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Brammer - 12-23-2018, 08:12 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-23-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-24-2018, 04:20 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-23-2018, 10:15 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-24-2018, 06:33 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-24-2018, 07:00 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-25-2018, 02:49 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-25-2018, 03:13 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-25-2018, 05:03 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-25-2018, 06:05 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-26-2018, 01:25 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-26-2018, 01:56 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 12-26-2018, 04:59 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 12-27-2018, 12:45 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Mike Prucha - 12-28-2018, 03:23 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-28-2018, 05:59 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-28-2018, 07:07 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 12-30-2018, 02:22 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-28-2018, 01:43 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-28-2018, 05:45 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Mike Prucha - 12-28-2018, 10:34 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-29-2018, 04:44 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-29-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by pokeytrev - 12-29-2018, 12:26 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-30-2018, 05:18 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 12-30-2018, 02:23 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-30-2018, 02:31 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-29-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-29-2018, 07:01 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-30-2018, 04:36 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-30-2018, 05:16 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-31-2018, 02:52 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 12-31-2018, 12:41 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Dodo98 - 12-31-2018, 08:55 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 01-01-2019, 02:53 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 01-01-2019, 12:33 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-31-2018, 02:36 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 12-31-2018, 03:05 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 12-31-2018, 06:02 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Plain Ian - 12-31-2018, 07:51 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-01-2019, 04:55 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Plain Ian - 01-01-2019, 08:29 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 01-11-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Liebchen - 01-11-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-01-2019, 04:54 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-01-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Dodo98 - 01-02-2019, 11:35 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Kool Kat - 01-03-2019, 12:29 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Plain Ian - 01-03-2019, 05:13 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-03-2019, 02:59 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Kool Kat - 01-03-2019, 04:48 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-03-2019, 03:52 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by 2-81 Armor - 01-03-2019, 03:58 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-03-2019, 05:04 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-03-2019, 05:30 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-03-2019, 05:49 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-03-2019, 10:11 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-03-2019, 05:12 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Brammer - 01-04-2019, 04:08 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-04-2019, 04:29 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-04-2019, 05:43 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-04-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-04-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Plain Ian - 01-05-2019, 12:10 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-05-2019, 04:48 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Plain Ian - 01-05-2019, 05:12 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-05-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-05-2019, 08:54 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-05-2019, 07:49 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-08-2019, 05:38 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-08-2019, 01:12 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-08-2019, 09:03 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-09-2019, 12:01 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-09-2019, 12:00 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-09-2019, 04:59 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-09-2019, 05:33 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Strela - 01-09-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-09-2019, 11:46 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by iley - 01-10-2019, 01:36 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-10-2019, 09:39 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by iley - 01-11-2019, 12:42 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-11-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-10-2019, 09:55 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-10-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by ComradeP - 01-11-2019, 04:37 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Strela - 01-11-2019, 12:40 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by larsonney - 01-12-2019, 08:48 AM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-11-2019, 01:36 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Der Landser - 01-11-2019, 02:17 PM
RE: France '40 Gold Team Game - by Brammer - 01-12-2019, 11:19 PM
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