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Japan 45
09-12-2019, 06:49 PM,
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RE: Japan 45
(09-12-2019, 09:41 AM)Elxaime Wrote: On bunkers/pillboxes, I double checked the Normandy 44' Gold alt scenario and the bunkers are indeed -40%/+10 in that one, which uses McNamara.  I know designers do tend to vary these across the games.  Japan 45' seems to use McNamara values as the default (there are no "alt" scenarios and just a single .pdt) so it was the super bunker values that caught my eye.

I haven't extensively tested this, but I think a quick fix might be to reduce the Japan 45' .pdt bunker value to -40%/+10.  The other option would be to mirror the scenario files like in Normandy 44', with regular and "alt" versions like that game, but obviously that would be a lot of work.  Another option of course would be to turn off Alt. Assault.  But I am not sure how that plays, since the game is built on McNamara.

Welcome any wisdom of others here.  I'd love to see Japan 45' do well.  But right now, the bunker issue, at least, is a real concern.  Not sure what other issues folks have with the McNamara.  But since Japan 45' seems McNamara-based, the most available fix seems to be tweaking the .pdt.

Oops, my bad. The bunker values are indeed variable in Normandy.
I loaded up the 'default' scenario by mistake. Whistle

Nevertheless, I still don't like the way the Alt Assault OR changes the way fortifications are handled.
Given the low Hard Attack values of infantry, any bunker/pillbox becomes more or less impervious to assaults by infantry, unless you mass absurd amounts of men into an assault. Even if the target unit has a low Defense value, it may not kill very many of the enemy attackers, but then it doesn't need to. As long as it has ZOC, all it has to do is sit there and block movement.

Personally, I think the Alt Assault OR nerfs infantry to a point where armor becomes far too powerful, but that's merely an opinion.
But even if I did agree with the OR, the basic fact remains that a bunker isn't an AFV and shouldn't be treated as such.
When you're better off using Direct Fire from towed AT-guns than you are using assaults with Pioneers, something is basically wrong.
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Messages In This Thread
Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-08-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 09-09-2019, 06:38 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-10-2019, 04:33 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Outlaw Josey Wales - 09-10-2019, 10:46 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-11-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-11-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by CheerfullyInsane - 09-12-2019, 07:19 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-12-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 09-12-2019, 11:32 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by CheerfullyInsane - 09-12-2019, 06:49 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Strela - 09-12-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 09-20-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 09-20-2019, 10:20 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-14-2019, 02:12 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-14-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by CheerfullyInsane - 09-14-2019, 07:42 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-14-2019, 02:18 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-14-2019, 04:25 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 09-14-2019, 10:13 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by -72- - 09-14-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-15-2019, 03:29 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-23-2019, 09:10 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 09-24-2019, 04:36 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-23-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-23-2019, 01:24 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Elxaime - 09-24-2019, 09:15 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 09-24-2019, 11:50 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Strela - 09-24-2019, 01:28 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 09-24-2019, 08:52 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 09-26-2019, 11:42 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-25-2019, 11:09 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 09-27-2019, 01:42 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 09-27-2019, 06:50 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 09-27-2019, 01:29 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 10-03-2019, 05:37 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 10-12-2019, 07:40 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 10-04-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 10-07-2019, 05:58 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 10-07-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Ricky B - 10-07-2019, 02:42 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Strela - 10-07-2019, 05:29 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Green - 10-09-2019, 12:04 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Strela - 10-09-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Mowgli - 10-07-2019, 07:09 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by CountryBoy - 10-07-2019, 08:13 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 10-07-2019, 09:16 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 10-11-2019, 11:14 PM
RE: Japan 45 - by Kool Kat - 10-12-2019, 03:16 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 10-12-2019, 07:58 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Outlaw Josey Wales - 10-12-2019, 12:12 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by beldurax - 10-12-2019, 02:09 AM
RE: Japan 45 - by Sgt_Rock - 10-12-2019, 08:05 AM

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