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Serbia '14
05-30-2020, 02:14 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-30-2020, 02:18 AM by ComradeP.)
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RE: Serbia '14
After some discussion with my opponent Elxaime for the 4th Invasion scenario and my Central Powers and Serbian experience in the 1st Invasion scenario, I'd like to discuss Chetniks.

Currently, they feel overpowered. They have a 3 hex Deception effect radius and Patrolling only works if the Patrolling unit is 1-2 hexes away from the Chetnik unit as the Deception unit has to be in range of the Patrolling effect. Switching to Patrolling requires full movement points, so you can't switch to Patrolling after moving.

If the Serbian player mixes Chetniks with frontline troops, which even when not done deliberately is difficult to avoid in some situations when moving units around, most if not all T-mode movement will result in the moving Central Powers units becoming Disrupted. This is particularly tricky for the low quality Austro-Hungarian units. A detached, Out of Command, Disrupted D quality HQ has No Morale, for example.

Support weapons like MG's and Field Guns can't be brought up to the frontline or moved away from them without a Patrolling unit covering the Chetnik unit. That makes retreating quite difficult for the Central Powers as well, particularly in difficult terrain where you would ideally use the road network.

The ability to shut down T-mode movement along lengthy portions of the frontline (there's no shortage of Chetniks usually) is very powerful and I would say not historically accurate, as the Deception effect moves "through" the frontline.

Decreasing the radius to 2 hexes could work, but that wouldn't remove the problem when Chetnik units are stacked with combat units at the frontline.

Maybe the Chetniks are meant to infiltrate behind Central Powers lines, but that would make the issues even worse.
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Serbia '14 - by PzKw43 - 03-29-2020, 04:25 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 03-29-2020, 05:10 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by PzKw43 - 03-29-2020, 05:13 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Sgt Jasper - 03-31-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Bioman - 03-29-2020, 05:16 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 03-29-2020, 05:30 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 03-29-2020, 08:20 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 03-29-2020, 05:41 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 08:00 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by PzKw43 - 03-29-2020, 05:57 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 07:53 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Gray Nemesis - 03-29-2020, 07:12 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 07:49 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Hoplite1963 - 03-29-2020, 07:16 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 08:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by merovingian - 03-29-2020, 08:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 03-29-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Xaver - 03-30-2020, 04:43 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 03-31-2020, 04:31 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-01-2020, 03:51 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 04-01-2020, 06:30 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-01-2020, 07:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-01-2020, 07:26 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 04-02-2020, 04:30 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-02-2020, 04:04 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-02-2020, 08:27 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 04-03-2020, 02:20 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-03-2020, 04:34 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-03-2020, 09:55 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 04-04-2020, 05:23 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2020, 09:06 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-04-2020, 11:10 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-04-2020, 11:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2020, 11:53 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-06-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-04-2020, 06:46 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-06-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Andrea G - 04-04-2020, 10:57 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-05-2020, 04:27 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 04-05-2020, 03:32 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-05-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-04-2020, 11:02 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-05-2020, 04:31 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-06-2020, 12:46 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-05-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-06-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-06-2020, 01:48 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-06-2020, 05:46 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by CountryBoy - 04-06-2020, 08:31 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jonnymacbrown - 04-07-2020, 01:41 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-06-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-07-2020, 10:12 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 04-07-2020, 02:37 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-07-2020, 03:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-11-2020, 05:38 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-11-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-14-2020, 06:54 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-15-2020, 05:05 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-15-2020, 06:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-15-2020, 05:44 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-16-2020, 05:59 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-15-2020, 05:08 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-15-2020, 05:23 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-15-2020, 04:55 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-15-2020, 08:52 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-16-2020, 07:54 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-16-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-17-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-17-2020, 07:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-17-2020, 11:27 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-17-2020, 11:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-18-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-18-2020, 06:24 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-18-2020, 07:52 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-19-2020, 10:38 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-19-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-19-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-21-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-22-2020, 07:23 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-23-2020, 06:44 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-24-2020, 08:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-04-2020, 06:06 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-04-2020, 06:20 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-04-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-04-2020, 04:20 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-05-2020, 03:28 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 05-05-2020, 05:29 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-05-2020, 05:38 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 05-05-2020, 06:07 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-11-2020, 04:36 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-30-2020, 02:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-30-2020, 02:50 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 05-30-2020, 02:56 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-30-2020, 03:52 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 05-30-2020, 04:04 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-30-2020, 05:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-30-2020, 06:05 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 05-30-2020, 06:50 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-30-2020, 07:25 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-30-2020, 08:02 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 05-30-2020, 08:13 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-30-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 06-01-2020, 07:40 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 06-01-2020, 11:27 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 06-29-2020, 12:54 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 06-14-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 06-29-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 06-30-2020, 10:05 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 10-06-2020, 08:15 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by LordDeadwood - 10-06-2020, 11:55 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Fhil - 10-07-2020, 05:18 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-03-2020, 02:22 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 11-03-2020, 05:15 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-03-2020, 04:50 PM
RE: Serbia '14 Issure - by crsutton - 11-08-2020, 12:18 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 11-08-2020, 08:49 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-09-2020, 06:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-10-2020, 03:02 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-10-2020, 04:01 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 11-10-2020, 06:32 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-10-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-10-2020, 05:09 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-11-2020, 01:05 PM

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