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Serbia '14
06-01-2020, 11:27 PM,
RE: Serbia '14
As with many mechanics, there's a certain "tipping point" between one step and the next where the next step isn't merely an improvement but creates an entirely different situation.

One or two Chetnik units might not be an issue, but situations where every single T-mode unit in a sector can be targeted by the Deception effect are not difficult to create.

Did historical Chetnik units have the capability to disrupt, in any terrain, on and off road, Central Powers movement? Day and night? In the presence of large numbers of Central Powers infantry battalions? I have no reason to believe that they did, but that's precisely what they can do in the game. That's why I feel they're overpowered. They're not guerrilla units. Within their radius they work more like highly effective air interdiction, minus the casualties inflicted.

I'm also basing my experience on, thus far, two nearly halfway completed 1st Invasion games and a 1/3 completed 4th Invasion game. That's hardly purely theoretical speculation.

Aside from issues when advancing, problems also appear when defending. It's already difficult to pull back (low quality) MG and field gun units from the frontline, even in good weather. Chetniks can make that a nightmare for the Central Powers. The vulnerability of support weapons is one of the things which I think don't work very well in FWWC, particularly to assaults or when withdrawing, and Deception effects make that worse.

In any situations where the low quality Austro-Hungarian forces have to withdraw or are assaulted, it's likely that they'll lose some MG units. If you play a scenario following a historical retreat, the MG and field gun units are (largely) intact, but that isn't likely to occur in a game.

In general, it would also help if you'd take feedback a bit more seriously.
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Serbia '14 - by PzKw43 - 03-29-2020, 04:25 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 03-29-2020, 05:10 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by PzKw43 - 03-29-2020, 05:13 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Sgt Jasper - 03-31-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Bioman - 03-29-2020, 05:16 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 03-29-2020, 05:30 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 03-29-2020, 08:20 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 03-29-2020, 05:41 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 08:00 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by PzKw43 - 03-29-2020, 05:57 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 07:53 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Gray Nemesis - 03-29-2020, 07:12 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 07:49 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Hoplite1963 - 03-29-2020, 07:16 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 03-29-2020, 08:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by merovingian - 03-29-2020, 08:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 03-29-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Xaver - 03-30-2020, 04:43 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 03-31-2020, 04:31 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-01-2020, 03:51 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 04-01-2020, 06:30 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-01-2020, 07:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-01-2020, 07:26 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 04-02-2020, 04:30 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-02-2020, 04:04 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-02-2020, 08:27 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 04-03-2020, 02:20 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-03-2020, 04:34 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-03-2020, 09:55 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 04-04-2020, 05:23 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2020, 09:06 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-04-2020, 11:10 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-04-2020, 11:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2020, 11:53 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-06-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-04-2020, 06:46 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by stigmatress - 04-06-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-04-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Andrea G - 04-04-2020, 10:57 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-05-2020, 04:27 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 04-05-2020, 03:32 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-05-2020, 04:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-04-2020, 11:02 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-05-2020, 04:31 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-06-2020, 12:46 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-05-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-06-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-06-2020, 01:48 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-06-2020, 05:46 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by CountryBoy - 04-06-2020, 08:31 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jonnymacbrown - 04-07-2020, 01:41 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-06-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-07-2020, 10:12 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by jim pfleck - 04-07-2020, 02:37 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-07-2020, 03:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-11-2020, 05:38 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-11-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-14-2020, 06:54 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-15-2020, 05:05 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-15-2020, 06:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-15-2020, 05:44 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-16-2020, 05:59 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-15-2020, 05:08 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-15-2020, 05:23 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-15-2020, 04:55 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-15-2020, 08:52 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-16-2020, 07:54 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-16-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-17-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-17-2020, 07:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-17-2020, 11:27 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-17-2020, 11:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-18-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 04-18-2020, 06:24 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-18-2020, 07:52 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mowgli - 04-19-2020, 10:38 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-19-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-19-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-21-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-22-2020, 07:23 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 04-23-2020, 06:44 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 04-24-2020, 08:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-04-2020, 06:06 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-04-2020, 06:20 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-04-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-04-2020, 04:20 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-05-2020, 03:28 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 05-05-2020, 05:29 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-05-2020, 05:38 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 05-05-2020, 06:07 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-11-2020, 04:36 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-30-2020, 02:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-30-2020, 02:50 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 05-30-2020, 02:56 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-30-2020, 03:52 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 05-30-2020, 04:04 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-30-2020, 05:14 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-30-2020, 06:05 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by KAreil - 05-30-2020, 06:50 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 05-30-2020, 07:25 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 05-30-2020, 08:02 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 05-30-2020, 08:13 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 05-30-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 06-01-2020, 07:40 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 06-01-2020, 11:27 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 06-29-2020, 12:54 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 06-14-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Volcano Man - 06-29-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 06-30-2020, 10:05 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Elxaime - 10-06-2020, 08:15 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by LordDeadwood - 10-06-2020, 11:55 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Fhil - 10-07-2020, 05:18 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-03-2020, 02:22 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Ricky B - 11-03-2020, 05:15 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-03-2020, 04:50 PM
RE: Serbia '14 Issure - by crsutton - 11-08-2020, 12:18 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 11-08-2020, 08:49 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-09-2020, 06:35 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-10-2020, 03:02 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-10-2020, 04:01 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by Mr Grumpy - 11-10-2020, 06:32 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-10-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Serbia '14 - by ComradeP - 11-10-2020, 05:09 PM
RE: Serbia '14 - by crsutton - 11-11-2020, 01:05 PM

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