Slow Pacing in Panzer Campaigns?

[Big Ivan]

One of the main reasons I don't play or compete in Panzer Campaigns. I found Minsk '44 and other titles way to slow with marsh and swamps everywhere in all kinds of conditions. I'll stick to the Campaign Series where mobility is a lot better in mud and snow. Definitely a whole lot better in clear weather.

Not sure what the answer is here to help movement in Panzer Campaigns. I feel the development team needs to take a closer look at the movement issue.

Hey John: 

Why would you compare the movement rates in a platoon-level scale game like the Campaign Series (1 hex = 250 meters / 1 turn = minutes) to a battalion-level game series like PzC ( 1 hex = 1 km / 1 turn = 2 hours)? 

That's an apples-to-oranges "comparison" and irrelevant. 

Why do you believe that the movement rates need help especially since you don't play or compete in PzC?

Hi Mike,

Your right in part, I am comparing apples to oranges. However it is kind of fun to see the differences in the two games. 

But consider this. In the Campaign Series 4 hexes = 1km. Each turn is roughly 6 minutes or some players believe its 10 minutes. So with these two time constraints you can have either 10 turns in an hour or 6 turns in an hour, An infantry platoon in mud or snow can move over level open ground (clear terrain) 2 hexes unabated. So in 10 Turns it can go 20 hexes (5km) using the 6 minute time frame. In 6 Turns it can go 12 hexes (3km) using the 10 minute time frame. Double that for 2 hours/Turn like in PzC and you have 10 km or 6km in mud and snow. 

As you pointed out I do not compete in PzC on a regular basis because I have other commitments with the Campaign Series behind the scenes. However I do have a few of the PzC games and I do play them from time to time against the A/I. I do tend to agree with 76mm that the game is a bit slow on movement in some venues. 

That having been said I play the game for what its worth. Someone once said there is no such thing as a perfect wargame and I believe that. Take it for what it is I guess.

Take care and have a good day Mike!
John