1914 Valour - FWWC Tournament Round 1

[HMCS Rosthern]

Round 1 starts Wednesday, January 1, 2025 0000PST, and ends Monday, February 27, 2025 2359PST (i.e. 26 turns * 2 days + 2 = 54 days). 

Happy New Year!

****Due to some dropouts, Updated Pairings to be posted shortly***** . 

A reminder that this tournament is a commitment. There will only be 2 days between rounds, and 2 days for both sides to complete a turn. Given the planned scenarios, this tournament requires continuous playing into December of 2025.

Round 1 scenario: 1914_0816_02: The Achilles Heel (#1914_0816_2 Mount Cer.scn)
Please use the recommended default rules, and no Delayed Disruption Reporting or Explicit Supply.
Software Version: Serbia '14, Version 4.05.1

Round 1 Pairings

When your game is complete please post in this thread the handles of the pairings and First Side score.

The men struggled forward under a blazing sun through thick undergrowth, taking almost all day to reach the high ground around the town of Ljesnica, barely 2 miles (3km) east of the river. Before them lay the mass of Mount Cer, which would prove to be the decisive battlefield of the campaign.

Prit Buttar, Collision of Empires, pg. 290, Osprey Publishing, Oxford UK, 2014

[Liebchen]

A reminder that this tournament is a commitment. There will only be 2 days between rounds, and 2 days for both sides to complete a turn. Given the planned scenarios, this tournament requires continuous playing into December of 2025.

Given this, I have to withdraw from this tourney, as I have a month-long sojourn to China planned this new year.

Apologies.

[mersh]

Round 1 starts Wednesday, January 1, 2025 0000PST, and ends Monday, February 27, 2025 2359PST (i.e. 26 turns * 2 days + 2 = 54 days). 

Happy New Year!

A reminder that this tournament is a commitment. There will only be 2 days between rounds, and 2 days for both sides to complete a turn. Given the planned scenarios, this tournament requires continuous playing into December of 2025.

Round 1 scenario: 1914_0816_02: The Achilles Heel (#1914_0816_2 Mount Cer.scn)
Please use the recommended default rules, and no Delayed Disruption Reporting or Explicit Supply.
Software Version: Serbia '14, Version 4.05.1

Round 1 Pairings



When your game is complete please post in this thread the handles of the pairings and First Side score.

The men struggled forward under a blazing sun through thick undergrowth, taking almost all day to reach the high ground around the town of Ljesnica, barely 2 miles (3km) east of the river. Before them lay the mass of Mount Cer, which would prove to be the decisive battlefield of the campaign.

Prit Buttar, Collision of Empires, pg. 290, Osprey Publishing, Oxford UK, 2014

Sorry but I have a commitment later in the year that prohibits me from participating in a tournament with a two day window.  I must withdraw as well.  

Regrets.

[Partizanka]

In lieu of the number of members already dropping out and considering that real life considerations like family, work, health holidays, and assorted emergencies take precedence for most people over gaming, I suggest abandoning the concept of commitment. While it sounds wonderful, I have been in a number of tournaments and in most of them there have been circumstances challenging the commitment of participants that then lead to a series of extensions which in my mind are more frustrating than having laxer more realistic rules. Also the object for me and I presume others is fun, which will not be the case for someone feeling pressured to get out a turn. The old norm of three days for a player to complete a move seemed right and still many players including myself had interruptions. My health hasn't been bad in the last couple of years but one good flu and I out for at least a week if not hospitalized. 

And what is the purpose? My thoughts were that the positive of these tournaments was that players were being encouraged to play again thus reversing the trend which saw a decline in the activity in the club. Why is the club pushing for time commitments that discourage play? Sounds counter-productive.

[Mr Grumpy]

And what is the purpose? My thoughts were that the positive of these tournaments was that players were being encouraged to play again thus reversing the trend which saw a decline in the activity in the club. Why is the club pushing for time commitments that discourage play? Sounds counter-productive.

Of course running a Tourney is supposed to be a fun experience and not a chore, however because everyone has different amounts of gaming time available it is very tough to get the turn rate comfortable for everyone, I have seen Tourneys in the past fail because a number of participants get frustrated with the lack of progress of other players and drop out for that reason, so without seeming to crack a whip we try to keep things moving as best we can. 

Of course there will be times in everyone’s life when an issue like illness gets in the way of our hobby, but as long as the person can let their opponent and the guy running the Tourney know I am sure that rounds game can be rescheduled so it can be finished. 

[HMCS Rosthern]

I appreciate the feed back. I don't want this tournament to be a chore. I want it to be an opportunity for entrants to meet new players, and at the same time provide competition. Above all, I want this to be fun. 

This 6 round tournament has to be completed by the end of 2025. I don't think I'll reduce the number of rounds. The previous tournament round durations were calculated as 2 days * the number of turns + 10 days. I will review the selected scenarios, and see what I can do about changing the scenarios to increase the time to complete the rounds. Hopefully those that have dropped out may be able to fit in the tournament with the new set of scenarios. 

This tournament will begin on January 1, so stay tuned.

[Partizanka]

And what is the purpose? My thoughts were that the positive of these tournaments was that players were being encouraged to play again thus reversing the trend which saw a decline in the activity in the club. Why is the club pushing for time commitments that discourage play? Sounds counter-productive.

Of course running a Tourney is supposed to be a fun experience and not a chore, however because everyone has different amounts of gaming time available it is very tough to get the turn rate comfortable for everyone, I have seen Tourneys in the past fail because a number of participants get frustrated with the lack of progress of other players and drop out for that reason, so without seeming to crack a whip we try to keep things moving as best we can. 

Of course there will be times in everyone’s life when an issue like illness gets in the way of our hobby, but as long as the person can let their opponent and the guy running the Tourney know I am sure that rounds game can be rescheduled so it can be finished. 

I know what you mean about players getting frustrated with the progress of the tournament since I have been one of those that have whined in the past, but as I stressed if time is going to be granted for players experiencing difficulty that compounds the frustration IMO. I would much rather see more realistic time parameters and then a sliding scale of deducted penalty points added for lack of completion of games in the realistic time frame to discourage laggers. But basically asking for a commitment of a turn every day or other day is courting a whole lot more frustration IMO with a lot more admin chores for the tourney runner addressing excuses. I haven't dropped out because I was anticipating turning over a couple of turns a day with players that are so motivated but looking at the schedule I find it unrealistic. 

[Steel God]

A commitment is fine and I applaud the idea of stating such up front, but people do have lives and not being able to go on a vacation with your family for 12 months, or a weekend away with your spouse, or attend a wedding or birth of a grandchild (all of which will be happening for me in 2025), make participation unrealistic.  I was hoping that, being a fast player myself, I could finish fast and/or start late, and still be able to complete rounds, but with 2 days per turn and 2 days between rounds baked in I don't see that as realistic for 12 months. 

If you want to keep the scenarios and the rounds as is, don't get hung up on being done in 2025, take what it takes, 14 or 15 months is not much different than 12.

Hoping to continue but respect the right to run your Tourney your way.  

[Liebchen]

A commitment is fine and I applaud the idea of stating such up front, but people do have lives and not being able to go on a vacation with your family for 12 months, or a weekend away with your spouse, or attend a wedding or birth of a grandchild (all of which will be happening for me in 2025), make participation unrealistic.  I was hoping that, being a fast player myself, I could finish fast and/or start late, and still be able to complete rounds, but with 2 days per turn and 2 days between rounds baked in I don't see that as realistic for 12 months. 

If you want to keep the scenarios and the rounds as is, don't get hung up on being done in 2025, take what it takes, 14 or 15 months is not much different than 12.

Hoping to continue but respect the right to run your Tourney your way.  

Concur 100%.

[Almskaar]

A commitment is fine and I applaud the idea of stating such up front, but people do have lives and not being able to go on a vacation with your family for 12 months, or a weekend away with your spouse, or attend a wedding or birth of a grandchild (all of which will be happening for me in 2025), make participation unrealistic.  I was hoping that, being a fast player myself, I could finish fast and/or start late, and still be able to complete rounds, but with 2 days per turn and 2 days between rounds baked in I don't see that as realistic for 12 months. 

If you want to keep the scenarios and the rounds as is, don't get hung up on being done in 2025, take what it takes, 14 or 15 months is not much different than 12.

Hoping to continue but respect the right to run your Tourney your way.  

Another 100%
I have a 3.5 year old and a 8 month old, I caught a cold a few days before xmas and only now as I'm starting to feel better can I say that I have any energy for extracurricular activities. 
I don't want to drop out but this timetable will probably be too fast for me, I'm sure as hell gonna try though. 
I greatly appreciate this being organized please consider making this more flexible.