Map Editor and ICE in 3.0

[Grumbler]

I lost some maps in the update and I was trying to replace them. One is a winter in Siberia map and I'm trying to get thick ice on my rivers. I used the old technique of making sure everything is set to winter, my river banks are positive level terrain and then filling in the river with clear terrain. All I got was clear terrain, NOT thick ice.
Has there been a change or have I forgotten something?:conf:

[wulfir]

Grumbler, an easy way to get thick ice:

Select two "winter nations", say Sweden and Finland.

Make the settings truly winter by changing the terrain type to WINTER and selecting a winter month, say JANUARY.

Enter the map, find the thick ice button and start clicking thick ice onto the map.

Save the map. :)

[Grumbler]

Kewl, much appreciated. Danke.

[Grumbler]

No Joy, I think it's beeen coded out. Oh well, no more soviets running the frozen lakes and rivers under the midnight sun.
If it's not a bother and you have a map that already has ice on it, would you mind sending it to me? I would like to see if it's that the ice cannot be created, or if the code doesn't recognise ice.

[wulfir]

No Joy, I think it's beeen coded out.

:conf:

I actually tried it before replying the first time. Had no problems...

Would be interesting to know if anyone else has problems with placing ice on a map...

[wulfir]

Here's a small thick ice test map..., most of the ice were auto generated with the auto generated map...

But Grumbler, I doubt you'll find many Soviets running around on frozen lakes and rivers under the midnight sun, it's pretty green during the summer... :cool:

[Grumbler]

Something is wrong here in Nathan Befford Forrest land. I saw the thick ice, then I made a regular water hex in it, when I went to replace that with witer olevel terrain to get thick ice, nothing happened. I tried BOTH tles, the clears to zero terrain and the other one. I think maybe a bit got lost someplace. I'm gonna re-install the patches and see if that makes a difference.
They come from the land of ice and snow,
with the midnight sun,
where the cold wind blows.

Led Zepplin.

[wulfir]

I saw the thick ice, then I made a regular water hex in it,

Ok, but then you did not have terrain type set to winter and month set to January - did you use terrain type summer?

when I went to replace that with witer olevel terrain to get thick ice,

FYI, there is a special button for thick ice. Adding 0 level clear terrain is adding 0 level clear terrain.

But you don't really need to bother with thick ice.

If you are trying to create a winter map with frozen lakes etc it would be OK to use clear terrain for lakes, fields, marshes..., the frozen parts of rivers. The snow will settle on it all and it looks white. Everywhere.
Easy, no headache - if you want it to look fancy make the clear terrain/snowdrifts representating ice level 0 and the clear terrain/snowdrifts representing ground level 10 and higher.

[Grumbler]

What I whount is to drag my cursor over the hex and have it say '-3 thick ice'.
I used to be able to do this and seem to have forgotten how, or my install is hosed. I do have the switch in the editor set to winter, the nations are Finland and Sweden, the Map generator is set to 2 on the line at the very bottom of the list. (season?) I have no tile button that says 'Ice'. I have two 'winter -clear' tile buttons on the map editor menu, one at the upper left on page one, another on page 2 about half way down the menu.
I'll keep chewing on it till I get it figured out. A trick I learned from my dog. I guess I'm just having a senior moment.

[wulfir]