Crossing the Waal with boats.

Bushido · 11-18-2007, 09:37 AM,

Gents,

I need your help. I am playing the historical full Market Garden campaign. For many turns I have tried to cross the Waal using my
boat engineers. But without result!

Is it possibel to cross the Waal in this way?

I know the US 82 AB did it 20 sept 1944 but perhaps it is not possibel
in this game. Or it is only me who is doing it wrong.

Glenn Saunders · 11-18-2007, 01:14 PM,

Bagration Wrote:I need your help. I am playing the historical full Market Garden campaign. For many turns I have tried to cross the Waal using my
boat engineers. But without result!

The HAS BOATS rukes were created for this very situation and the use of them is documented int he USER.DOC/HLP/PDF under the HELP Menu under USER MANUAL (or F2)

See the section "The Basics" and the Engineers

Scoll down the the part with the bold text called "Water Hex Ferrying"

The section reads as follows:

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Some Engineer units can also ferry units across water hexes. Engineer units with this ability have the Has Boats flag in the current scenario. The Engineer unit must not be building or dismantling a bridge and must not be laying or clearing mines. In addition, the Engineer unit must not be Disrupted or Broken, must have full Movement allowance, and must not be in Travel or Rail Mode.

The requirements for a unit to be ferried across a water hex are:

· The unit being ferried must be of Foot movement class, or be of Ski, Bicycle, or Horse movement class and consist of men (right click in Unit Picture to see this information listed) or be a unit which is On Foot (see section on Movement).

· The unit being ferried must have full Movement Allowance, must be in Travel Mode, and must not be Disrupted or Broken.

There are three limitations to this movement:

· The Water hex being moved into must be adjacent to a hex containing an Engineer unit that can perform Water Hex Ferrying.

· The Water hex being moved into must not contain a bridge.

· At most one unit at a time can enter a single Water Hex using Ferrying.

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Let me know if there is something not clear in here that has mislead you in some way.

Glenn

Bushido · 11-18-2007, 01:28 PM,

Glenn,

first many thanks for your answer. I have red and rered the rules but I can
Not get the men over.

First I was thinking that my Excellent axis opponent had put men at the crossings. I flew alot off heavy recon flights and have also reconed now with
the polish paratroopers who jumped on the other side of the Waal. They have
found no germans on the crossings.

I will give it a new try later today when my turn comes back. But realy I have
tried for many turns. I have no idea what I do wrong.

If I can not cross in this way. It is only to Surrender the battle!

Again Glenn I realy appreciate your help.

jonnymacbrown · 11-18-2007, 02:37 PM,

There is a trick to it! I can't remember exactly what it was but it is some simple thing that's easy not to see but vital to complete the process. Keep experimenting. You'll get it! von ege Cry

Bushido · 11-18-2007, 02:59 PM,

Prinz von Egan,

that did it. Problem solved.

Thanks for all help!

Glenn Saunders · 11-18-2007, 03:13 PM,

Bagration Wrote:Again Glenn I realy appreciate your help.

OK - then I am missing something here - you have read the rules, you understand HOW they work and you still can't make the units cross?

You know the Eng themselves don't cross - right. The Units with the HAS Boat HELP other FOOT units that are in T mode to actually cross - yes?

You want me to send you a BTL file with an illustration how the rules actually work? Drop me a line if you do.

Glenn

Bushido · 11-18-2007, 03:23 PM,

Hello Glenn,

do you read my reply to Prince von Egan.....just above?

The problem is solved!

Thanks for all help.

Glenn Saunders · 11-18-2007, 03:43 PM,

Bagration Wrote:Hello Glenn,

do you read my reply to Prince von Egan.....just above?

The problem is solved!

Thanks for all help.

Actually - no - I just read the reply to me. I have read it now - I still don't follow what the TRICK is - if the unit is a FOOT unit of a Mot unit that is "ON FOOT" - and you put them in T mode it should work.

Anyway - just to make sure some bug didn't sneak in there I made up this little test scn to show or illustrate how to cross full water bridges.

The next game coming will have a full water hex river and we made a scn to help folks get the hang of it before they get into a full campaign Scn or something.

Gald it is working for you now.

Glenn