PzIV H or t34/85 which is better

[Bert Blitzkrieg]

Same thing about the HE capability. With the Panzer IV you can area- fire practically through a whole game. With the T34/85 you can't. So, the bigger bang comes with a distinct drawback.

This isnt true. The HE load of a T-34 is only slightly less than a Panzer IVH and averages around the high 30s to mid 40s. Given that the blast is much higher 75 v 45, the T-34 is far superior against infantry.

You're right. I stand corrected. Don't know why I thought the amount of HE was small. Indeed it isn't !

[WarHammer11A]

T-38/85 All the way. Its mobility makes the tank.

[Chipmunk]

I find the rather small ammo load-out from the T34/85 a real drawback. Okay, the T34/85 can stand its ground against a Panzer IVH from a distance, but due to its weaker optics and small amount of shells it won't be able to really use this as a tactic.

In my opinion this is a actually valid tactic for the T-34/85. Consider that in a long range gunnery duel any commander worth his salt will probably have his tank hull down. Much beyond 500m the PZ IV wont' be able to get through the 90mm curved turret of the T-34, yet one hit from T-34 will still easily drill the turret of the PZ IV.