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Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
01-13-2016, 06:45 AM,
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Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
Hi,

For those who have not seen yet the movie "Fury", here is the incredible realistic scene of a fight between a tiger and 3 shermans. It really shows how frightened were tanks crews during a fight and what did they risk. horrifiying !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8vFGQ0uJQc

It was made with a real Tiger (n°131), the only operating Tiger tank in the world and real Shermans (various versions)
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01-13-2016, 07:52 AM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
(01-13-2016, 06:45 AM)jawsconan Wrote: Hi,

For those who have not seen yet the movie "Fury", here is the incredible realistic scene of a fight between a tiger and 3 shermans. It really shows how frightened were tanks crews during a fight and what did they risk. horrifiying !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8vFGQ0uJQc

It was made with a real Tiger (n°131), the only operating Tiger tank in the world and real Shermans (various versions)

I love it, its wonderfull
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01-14-2016, 06:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-14-2016, 06:58 AM by Westland.)
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
"Fury" came in Germany by the public very poor.Very unrealistic battles.Historical background all untrue.The US Army was fighting never in shorthanded! Outnumbered only fought Germany!
The fight against tiger is nonsense.The tiger had been destroyed by fighter-bombers.
The cannon of fury would have also frontal can destroy the Tiger.
A bataillon SS soldiers is too stupid to destroy a Sherman.
The film is reminiscent of the old Soviet war films of 1946-1985.Hordes of humped German egg heads that are too stupid to make.
The movie was really awful bad.Only the original vehicles and tanks were worth a look.

Here you can see it. 267 very negative and 157 good reviews.
http://www.amazon.de/Fury-Herz-aus-Stahl...B00RPB4T3Q
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01-14-2016, 07:07 AM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
I meant about vehicles, that 4 minutes of fight with a real tiger its so wonderful,just that its what I ve whatch from the film, the tiger its real!!!, its one of them,.
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01-14-2016, 07:14 AM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
for the kind of tiger cupola, I guess that its one of the early versions, the trucks are for roads or for delivery by trains.
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01-14-2016, 07:57 AM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
(01-14-2016, 06:52 AM)Westland Wrote: "Fury" came in Germany by the public very poor.Very unrealistic battles.Historical background all untrue.The US Army was fighting never in shorthanded! Outnumbered only fought Germany!
The fight against tiger is nonsense.The tiger had been destroyed by fighter-bombers.
The cannon of fury would have also frontal can destroy the Tiger.
A bataillon SS soldiers is too stupid to destroy a Sherman.
The film is reminiscent of the old Soviet war films of 1946-1985.Hordes of humped German egg heads that are too stupid to make.
The movie was really awful bad.Only the original vehicles and tanks were worth a look.

Here you can see it. 267 very negative and 157 good reviews.
http://www.amazon.de/Fury-Herz-aus-Stahl...B00RPB4T3Q

I agree with you about the scenario of the film. It is sometimes unrealistic, especially the last battle VS the SS soldiers. this movie shows a pro-US point of vue.
However, the topic is not to discuss about the complete movie but only about this particular scene. this specific scene is very detailed and we can see here things that we have never seen before. By exemple the hole (with fire) on the sherman's superstructure due to the 88mm succeded impact at 1:18

And the scene is not so unrealistic as you said about frontal shot by a sherman
source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I#Gu...erformance
"The M4 Sherman's 75 mm gun would not penetrate the Tiger frontally at any range, and needed to be within 100 m to achieve a side penetration against the 80 mm upper hull superstructure"

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01-14-2016, 11:50 AM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
Well it was a movie in the end, but....

Fury, The Panzer Game Reenactment (board game)
http://overdaedge.blogspot.com/2014/10/f...tment.html

[Image: PanzerMap.2.png]

Yeah the end was Hollywood, but.......

26 January 1945 2d Lt. Murphy :)

http://amhistory.si.edu/militaryhistory/...asp?ID=421


Quote:2d Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by 6 tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to prepared positions in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, 1 of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted.

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01-14-2016, 02:45 PM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
(01-14-2016, 07:57 AM)jawsconan Wrote: And the scene is not so unrealistic as you said about frontal shot by a sherman
source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I#Gu...erformance
"The M4 Sherman's 75 mm gun would not penetrate the Tiger frontally at any range, and needed to be within 100 m to achieve a side penetration against the 80 mm upper hull superstructure"

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A Sherman with a 75mm would not penetrate frontally, but unless i'm mistaken the Fury is an Easy 8, with a 76mm gun, not 75mm. And from my knowledge the 76mm is perfectly capable of taking out a tiger with a frontal shoot at those close ranges as in the movie.
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01-14-2016, 03:23 PM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
[Image: Tiger%2BI%2Bvs%2BSherman%2B76mm.jpg]

75mm


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01-15-2016, 06:15 AM,
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RE: Tiger VS 3 Shermans from movie "Fury"
(01-14-2016, 02:45 PM)raz_atoth Wrote:
(01-14-2016, 07:57 AM)jawsconan Wrote: And the scene is not so unrealistic as you said about frontal shot by a sherman
source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I#Gu...erformance
"The M4 Sherman's 75 mm gun would not penetrate the Tiger frontally at any range, and needed to be within 100 m to achieve a side penetration against the 80 mm upper hull superstructure"

cheers.


A Sherman with a 75mm would not penetrate frontally, but unless i'm mistaken the Fury is an Easy 8, with a 76mm gun, not 75mm. And from my knowledge the 76mm is perfectly capable of taking out a tiger with a frontal shoot at those close ranges as in the movie.


Yes, your knowledge is correct Raz. And i also know this point. A 76mm caliber can easily penatrate the Tiger's frontal armor at this range. Simply, i did not notice that the Fury has a 76mm gun. Apologies.
Due to this detail, may be this sherman should hurt more the Tiger on its first shots.
But as i said before, The interest of the scene is not in its scenario. I think it reveals how those WW2 tanks fights went and how the crews worked at destroying the enemy in spite of the fear and panic.

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