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ME - Constructive Feedback.....I hope!
10-08-2017, 05:47 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-08-2017, 05:47 AM by Jason Petho.)
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Thank you for the feedback, Boisforas.

With the new event editor, the majority of the scenarios (all mine, anyway) will be getting redone in future UPDATES. Any and all feedback for how to make the scenarios better would be greatly appreciated and listened to in detail. Of course, the more details one can provide - on a scenario by scenario basis - would be invaluable.

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10-08-2017, 01:16 PM,
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How about putting a couple in the H2H testing area and advertising for testers in the forum? I know we don't often step up to test, but Mike West got excellent results when he pushed for testers. Just need designers to stay active and on top of it.

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10-08-2017, 03:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-08-2017, 03:22 PM by Crossroads. Edit Reason: typos )
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Out of curiosity, I checked what the Scenario database has to say about East Front scenario play balance, per scenario ratings. I'll use the same analysis as Tiger88 did, with 7.5 being the breaking point:

267 scenarios are 7.5 or better (48.5%)
284 scenarios are lower than 7.5 (51.5%)
from a total of 551

West Front:

345 (48.8%)
362 (51.2%)
from a total of 707 scenarios

These are a bit positive, as there were a few scenarios with rating of "0" that I missed because they don't filter properly. But it does not change the big picture.

Compare those then to the analysis in the opening post, with 47% positive and 53% negative (no of scenarios for analysis is of course much less).

All this does not negate the fact that more testing and playtesters the better. But perhaps offers an interesting comparison. Obviously we want to do better than the statistic medium, so yes, do join in for the next Beta Brigade testing effort.
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10-09-2017, 03:07 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-09-2017, 03:09 AM by zap.)
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(10-08-2017, 03:14 PM)Battle Kat Wrote: Out of curiosity, I checked what the Scenario database has to say about East Front scenario play balance, per scenario ratings. I'll use the same analysis as Tiger88 did, with 7.5 being the breaking point:

267 scenarios are 7.5 or better (48.5%)
284 scenarios are lower than 7.5 (51.5%)
from a total of 551

West Front:

345 (48.8%)
362 (51.2%)
from a total of 707 scenarios

These are a bit positive, as there were a few scenarios with rating of "0" that I missed because they don't filter properly. But it does not change the big picture.

Compare those then to the analysis in the opening post, with 47% positive and 53% negative (no of scenarios for analysis is of course much less).
All this does not negate the fact that more testing and playtesters the better. But perhaps offers an interesting comparison. Obviously we want to do better than the statistic medium, so yes, do join in for the next Beta Brigade testing effort.

I'm curious aren't many of the ratings from East and West front not done through the H2H process? Are the ratings accurate?
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10-09-2017, 04:05 AM,
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Zap, I am pretty sure the H2H ratings are given at the time the scenario is at the H2H depot, and they stay there. That's why the H2H testers receive Ladder points for their efforts, as the results themselves aren't reported.
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10-09-2017, 07:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-09-2017, 07:13 AM by zap.)
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(10-09-2017, 04:05 AM)Battle Kat Wrote: Zap, I am pretty sure the H2H ratings are given at the time the scenario is at the H2H depot, and they stay there. That's why the H2H testers receive Ladder points for their efforts, as the results themselves aren't reported.

Oh okay , I was under the impression one could add their game to the data base without going through the H2H depot process. Hence my curiosity. So all those scenarios you listed went through the H2H depot?
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10-09-2017, 03:58 PM,
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(10-09-2017, 04:05 AM)Battle Kat Wrote: Zap, I am pretty sure the H2H ratings are given at the time the scenario is at the H2H depot, and they stay there. That's why the H2H testers receive Ladder points for their efforts, as the results themselves aren't reported.

Sorry, misunderstood your post. I thought you were asking if all EF and WF scenarios went through it. 

But that's right, anyone can upload their scenarios to DB. The Blitz "H2H" testing / certification is a separate process then.

Scenarios targeted for head-to-head play are then yet another "H2H" thing.  

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10-09-2017, 07:07 PM,
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Middle East, Several more scenarios creators on the pitch please
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10-09-2017, 08:59 PM,
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(10-08-2017, 01:16 PM)Scud Wrote: How about putting a couple in the H2H testing area and advertising for testers in the forum? I know we don't often step up to test, but Mike West got excellent results when he pushed for testers. Just need designers to stay active and on top of it.

Dave

(10-09-2017, 07:07 PM)fritzfarlig Wrote: Middle East, Several more scenarios creators on the pitch please

Oh man, I just recalled Jim (von Krieg) set up a scenario design competition a while ago. I had totally forgotten about that. There would have been plenty of time to run a few of them through the Blitz H2H process, and to be included then in the 2.0 release, now out in late November. 

There's always the next update, right. I'll see if we can set up something like that, with some prizes to be win, too!
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10-09-2017, 09:10 PM,
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(10-09-2017, 08:59 PM)Battle Kat Wrote:
(10-08-2017, 01:16 PM)Scud Wrote: How about putting a couple in the H2H testing area and advertising for testers in the forum? I know we don't often step up to test, but Mike West got excellent results when he pushed for testers. Just need designers to stay active and on top of it.

Dave

(10-09-2017, 07:07 PM)fritzfarlig Wrote: Middle East, Several more scenarios creators on the pitch please

Oh man, I just recalled Jim (von Krieg) set up a scenario design competition a while ago. I had totally forgotten about that. There would have been plenty of time to run a few of them through the Blitz H2H process, and to be included then in the 2.0 release, now out in late November. 

There's always the next update, right. I'll see if we can set up something like that, with some prizes to be win, too!

I also remember it, but have not heard anything about it since
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