cleaning rubble in Normandy 44

dukemat · 02-06-2021, 08:49 AM,

can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying.

Fortynslow · 02-06-2021, 09:22 AM,

It can take a long time. It's half the digging in percentage, which I think is 10% in the Normandy scenarios, so 5% per turn for a full battalion of engineers. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

Fog of War · 02-06-2021, 09:29 AM,

I think it`s bugged, it never has worked for.

Green · 02-06-2021, 10:42 AM,

I am not sure if it is a bug. I suspect it is intentional but poorly described by the manual.

Engineers can clear a RUBBLE hex and hence convert it to a Rubble hex. This allows units in Travel Mode to use pass through using Road Movement.

So if you have engineers that have the message 'Clearing Rubble' shown in their Unitbox, they are actually clearing RUBBLE, even if it seems like nothing is happening. Once the clearing is finished the hex will be a Rubble hex and the message will disappear. You cannot set an Engineer to clear Rubble, only RUBBLE.

Don't read this out loud and expect it to make sense!

bigus · (This post was last modified: 02-06-2021, 12:59 PM by bigus.)

(02-06-2021, 08:49 AM)dukemat Wrote: can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying.

Yup,
I think your right......
My engineers have been at it for more than 4 turns.
"A" quality engineers too.

Playing a Moscow 41 scenario.
Not even "Rubble" notification from "RUBBLE".

Seems like a bug..

bigus · (This post was last modified: 02-06-2021, 02:50 PM by bigus.)

(02-06-2021, 12:35 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 08:49 AM)dukemat Wrote: can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying

12 turns in and still haven't cleared the rubble.......

Green · 02-06-2021, 02:54 PM,

(02-06-2021, 12:35 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 08:49 AM)dukemat Wrote: can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying.

Yup,
I think your right......
My engineers have been at it for more than 4 turns.
"A" quality engineers too.

Playing a Moscow 41 scenario.
Not even "Rubble" notification from "RUBBLE".

Seems like a bug..

Just to be clear, even though it can take a long time, engineers do create rubble from RUBBLE. It is working fine in my experience.

Given that the probability is half the probability of Digging In, it is not surprising that it has not been cleared in 4 turns. And I am not sure that Quality makes any difference.

Green · 02-06-2021, 02:56 PM,

(02-06-2021, 02:45 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 12:35 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 08:49 AM)dukemat Wrote: can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying

12 turns in and still haven't cleared the rubble.......

Are the conditions Frozen? That could be a factor as that would make Digging In impossible and so may affect rubble clearance.

bigus · 02-06-2021, 03:13 PM,

(02-06-2021, 02:56 PM)Green Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 02:45 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 12:35 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 08:49 AM)dukemat Wrote: can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying

12 turns in and still haven't cleared the rubble.......

Are the conditions Frozen? That could be a factor as that would make Digging In impossible and so may affect rubble clearance.

Yes frozen, how does it effect rubble clearance?

Green · 02-06-2021, 03:18 PM,

(02-06-2021, 03:13 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 02:56 PM)Green Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 02:45 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 12:35 PM)bigus Wrote:
(02-06-2021, 08:49 AM)dukemat Wrote: can't seem to remove rubble no matter how long or how many engineer units I have in the hex.

really annoying

12 turns in and still haven't cleared the rubble.......

Are the conditions Frozen? That could be a factor as that would make Digging In impossible and so may affect rubble clearance.

Yes frozen, how does it effect rubble clearance?

No, I just checked and it doesn't. Bear in mind that when something is a 1 in 20 chance, the chance of it not happening in the first 13 turns is roughly 50%. It is working, it just takes time and a bit of luck.