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An Interesting Fact
08-01-2008, 07:51 AM,
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An Interesting Fact
Manure... An interesting fact
Manure: In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship and it was also before commercial fertilizer's invention, so large shipments of manure were common.
It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by- product is methane gas. As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen.
Methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern, BOOOOM!
Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just what was happening.
After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the term 'Ship High In Transit' on them, which meant for the sailors to stow it high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.
Thus evolved the term ' S.H.I.T ' , (Ship High In Transport) which has come d own through the centuries and is in use to this very day.
You probably did not know the true history of this word.


Neither did I. I had always thought it was a golf term.
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08-01-2008, 10:57 AM,
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RE: An Interesting Fact
HiHi

Hate to spoil a good story Ted, but I think Shit is an Anglo-saxon corruption of a similar word in Old Norse/German, probably came over with the Danes. I'm fairly certain that both Chauser and Shakespeare used the term in their writings, Piss & Fuck are also A-S words and again I think, used by both.

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Peter
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08-01-2008, 11:14 AM,
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RE: An Interesting Fact
I think the other Kingmaker it's correct , I just look for shit etymology at google and found it:

http://www.etymonline.com/baloney.php

shit (v.)
O.E. scitan, from P.Gmc. *skit-, from PIE *skheid- "split, divide, separate." Related to shed (v.) on the notion of "separation" from the body (cf. L. excrementum, from excernere "to separate"). It is thus a cousin to science and conscience. The noun is O.E. scitte "purging;" sense of "excrement" dates from 1585, from the verb. Despite what you read in an e-mail, "shit" is not an acronym. The notion that it is a recent word may be because the word was taboo from c.1600 and rarely appeared in print (neither Shakespeare not the KJV has it), and even in "vulgar" publications of the late 18c. it is disguised by dashes. It drew the wrath of censors as late as 1922 ("Ulysses" and "The Enormous Room"), scandalized magazine subscribers in 1957 (a Hemingway story in "Atlantic Monthly") and was omitted from some dictionaries as recently as 1970 ("Webster's New World"). Extensive slang usage; verb meaning "to lie, to tease" is from 1934; that of "to disrespect" is from 1903. Noun use for "obnoxious person" is since at least 1508; meaning "misfortune, trouble" is attested from 1937. Shat is a humorous past tense form, not etymological, first recorded 18c. Shite, now a jocular or slightly euphemistic variant, formerly a dialectal variant, reflects the vowel in the O.E. verb (cf. Ger. scheissen). Shit-faced "drunk" is 1960s student slang; shit list is from 1942. To not give a shit "not care" is from 1922; up shit creek "in trouble" is from 1937. Scared shitless first recorded 1936.
"The expression [the shit hits the fan] is related to, and may well derive from, an old joke. A man in a crowded bar needed to defecate but couldn't find a bathroom, so he went upstairs and used a hole in the floor. Returning, he found everyone had gone except the bartender, who was cowering behind the bar. When the man asked what had happened, the bartender replied, 'Where were you when the shit hit the fan?' " [Hugh Rawson, "Wicked Words," 1989]
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08-01-2008, 05:32 PM,
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RE: An Interesting Fact
Fair comment Gentlemen, I surrender to your Knowledge,Nice to know we have learned in our midst, Peter like you say interesting story though.

cheers Ted
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08-01-2008, 07:07 PM,
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RE: An Interesting Fact
HiHi

Yer, it's one of those stories that are so damn convincing it is a shame to spoil them.

From Justins post it looks like I was wrong re Shakespeare using it though, although I know he used Piss, (the Gatekeeper in Macbeth).

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Peter
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08-01-2008, 07:29 PM,
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RE: An Interesting Fact
It was a good story, too bad. :)
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