Victory Points - FWWC

[BigDuke66]

Where can I find the victory points that each unit type gives?
Couldn't find anything in any documentation.

And are points counted differently on exit objectives or are they count like casualties?

[ComradeP]

I've been wondering about the last question myself, particularly as it might theoretically be possible to get a fairly gamey victory by exiting an army or two at Epinal in the campaign, as an army is worth so many points. It would be a lame way to win, but I'm wondering if it could work.

As to your first question: do you have a Panzer Campaigns game with an OOB editor (I only own Moscow '42 and it has one)? If so, you can copy the OOB file (the file type is OOB File, there are three files in the main France '14 folder) and open them. France '14 and East Prussia '14 don't seem to have an OOB editor.

You can open them with Notepad, but typically the only value that isn't shown for some reason is the VP number.

There are not all that many unit types, so if you don't have a PZC game with an OOB editor, I could type them out for you.

[BigDuke66]

I have PC games, I see VPs listed in in the OOB Editor but are these for destroying the unit or just exiting it or both?

I want to know how many VPs I get for the casualties per men, gun, vehicle, etc. that I achieve as I thought that the same amount of VPs can be achieved by exiting the unit.

[ComradeP]

I believe it's something like: divide the value in the editor by 10 to get the VP's per 10 men or per vehicle when determining how many points you get from inflicting casualties.

[Ricky B]

The points are the same whether for losing the unit, or exiting at an exit objective. The VPs for a unit are a derived value, and include not just the value for a unit type, but go up or down based on unit quality for that type. So it can vary based on that, along with the ratings and ability for a specific unit type.

Rick

[BigDuke66]

Thanks, I had the impression we would work with standard values like in Napoleon series were there is a VP value for infantry, cavalry and artillery and that's it.

So when ComradeP is right, would the casualties of a more "valuable" unit also give more VPs?
I checked the France 40 campaign scenario with the OOB editor and see that for example a company of German infantry with quality C gives 10 VP but another company with quality B gives 11 VPs, so would I achieve more VPs per casualty when killing some of the B quality company?


The current problem and why I initially asked is that in a current FWWC scenario my enemies (at least I think so) don' consider exiting as they don't have a clue how many VP this will give especially since a lot VPs are on map.

[Ricky B]

Yes, VPs are directly tied to the points earned from casualties. For PzC, I generally just estimate the points as 1 for every 10 men/1 gun/half a tank, more for HQ units or high morale, and don't worry about the details. I would simply run a test of a few units in a game to get a better idea, or what I have done with exits is moved a unit off and then decided if it was worth sending more units off for the balance of the game.

Rick