AP/HE ammo ???

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I thought the discussion had migrated to the benefits and realism of penetration tables in general, not just in an outlier example.

You are right, it had; I was using the OP's 1KM range as a poorly re-introduced example. :rolleyes:

I don't want to suggest that the points you raise are not valid. I do want to suggest that we may underestimate our grandfathers' ingenuity and skill in overcoming those difficulties. If you or I were asked to use a rangefinder and ID a target on a 1942 battlefield, we'd be in real trouble. But that's like asking Ivan the 45mm ace to create a FaceBook page.

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I agree that we shouldn't underestimate historic crews ingenuity and ability.

My point is that - and in a similar way - we know the exact unit ID, the exact range, and the armour thickness; all we have to do is use a little ingenuity (and experience) to determine if our guns AP round has a reasonable chance of penetrating a target at 'whatever' range...

In the example of the OP, we didn't even need any ingenuity or experience. The crew figured out for you, that it had a better chance with HE than AP at that range.

If you were really anal, err... I mean resourceful, :rolleyes: you could actually keep a log with 'pen' results at various ranges with different guns. This would expedite the learning curve of experience.

I prefer the game as it is. I have an idea of my chances based on the gun data, range and armour. It would take some of the mistique from the game if I had only mathematical data to consult.