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AP/HE ammo ???
02-03-2009, 05:28 AM,
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RE: AP/HE ammo ???
seabolt Wrote:I thought the discussion had migrated to the benefits and realism of penetration tables in general, not just in an outlier example.

You are right, it had; I was using the OP's 1KM range as a poorly re-introduced example. :rolleyes:

seabolt Wrote:I don't want to suggest that the points you raise are not valid. I do want to suggest that we may underestimate our grandfathers' ingenuity and skill in overcoming those difficulties. If you or I were asked to use a rangefinder and ID a target on a 1942 battlefield, we'd be in real trouble. But that's like asking Ivan the 45mm ace to create a FaceBook page.

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I agree that we shouldn't underestimate historic crews ingenuity and ability.

My point is that - and in a similar way - we know the exact unit ID, the exact range, and the armour thickness; all we have to do is use a little ingenuity (and experience) to determine if our guns AP round has a reasonable chance of penetrating a target at 'whatever' range...

In the example of the OP, we didn't even need any ingenuity or experience. The crew figured out for you, that it had a better chance with HE than AP at that range.

If you were really anal, err... I mean resourceful, :rolleyes: you could actually keep a log with 'pen' results at various ranges with different guns. This would expedite the learning curve of experience.

I prefer the game as it is. I have an idea of my chances based on the gun data, range and armour. It would take some of the mistique from the game if I had only mathematical data to consult.
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Messages In This Thread
AP/HE ammo ??? - by Target - 02-02-2009, 01:52 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-02-2009, 03:34 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-02-2009, 05:48 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Target - 02-02-2009, 06:34 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Walrus - 02-02-2009, 09:31 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Target - 02-02-2009, 10:29 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-02-2009, 11:15 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-03-2009, 12:01 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-03-2009, 12:30 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-03-2009, 01:01 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-03-2009, 02:25 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-03-2009, 02:37 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-03-2009, 03:08 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-03-2009, 03:26 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-03-2009, 04:48 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-03-2009, 05:28 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-03-2009, 04:57 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-03-2009, 05:57 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-03-2009, 02:56 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-03-2009, 05:03 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Greybeard - 02-03-2009, 06:16 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-03-2009, 06:28 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Narwan - 02-03-2009, 06:28 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-03-2009, 06:33 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-03-2009, 06:52 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Iwo Jim - 02-03-2009, 11:32 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Walrus - 02-03-2009, 01:10 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-03-2009, 01:12 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by RERomine - 02-03-2009, 03:51 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Walrus - 02-03-2009, 01:27 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Weasel - 02-03-2009, 01:52 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Narwan - 02-03-2009, 10:49 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-04-2009, 02:14 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by RERomine - 02-04-2009, 03:00 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by RERomine - 02-04-2009, 12:20 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by animal mother - 02-04-2009, 01:04 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by PzHeinZ - 02-04-2009, 02:45 AM
APCR ammo - by Weasel - 02-05-2009, 05:10 AM
RE: APCR ammo - by seabolt - 02-05-2009, 05:22 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-05-2009, 06:24 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Weasel - 02-05-2009, 06:26 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by RERomine - 02-05-2009, 09:36 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-05-2009, 06:30 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Weasel - 02-05-2009, 09:58 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Cross - 02-05-2009, 01:27 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Weasel - 02-06-2009, 06:38 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-06-2009, 07:25 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-17-2009, 06:26 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-18-2009, 01:44 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Weasel - 02-18-2009, 12:40 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-18-2009, 02:02 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-18-2009, 03:51 PM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-19-2009, 02:51 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-19-2009, 03:25 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by seabolt - 02-19-2009, 03:38 AM
RE: AP/HE ammo ??? - by Vesku - 02-19-2009, 06:40 AM

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